Ever considered a Heart Transplant for your Z?

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Ever considered a Heart Transplant for your Z?

Post by stu » Tue 20 Apr, 2010 21:25

If so, what do you reckon to this?

I could be tempted if it was a bit cheaper, but I think £5k's a bit steep as it will come as seen and no warranty of any sort.
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Post by markrnorton » Tue 20 Apr, 2010 21:32

At £4k I would be tempted and take a punt, but £5k is too much
would the Z chassis take that sort of power ?? Might be just ott
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Post by Hang_em_high » Tue 20 Apr, 2010 21:41

Funny you should post this tonight. I was only thinking this evening about transplanting an ///m engine into my facelift 2.8 and what it would entail. I prefer the facelift look and would end up with a one off facelift ///m power Zed mmmmmmm :D
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Post by Deano1712 » Wed 21 Apr, 2010 10:32

My M engine will be for sale in a few months. It will be complete with ancillaries, gearbox, harness and controller. If anyone wants it all make me an offer.
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Post by komis » Wed 21 Apr, 2010 11:25

Hang_em_high wrote:Funny you should post this tonight. I was only thinking this evening about transplanting an ///m engine into my facelift 2.8 and what it would entail. I prefer the facelift look and would end up with a one off facelift ///m power Zed mmmmmmm :D
i know someone in greece that's done a 1.9 (late pre-facelift) to 3.0 and also another guy that's done a 1.9 to 3.2 (M) conversion... the latter case required lots of parts (including front suspension & electrics) so wasn't a simple case, the former case was pretty much plug-and-play though...

I've been considering a 2.8 (facelift) to 3.0 conversion... same fuel economy, better HP plus lower emissions... would it be worth it? My engine only has 30K on it tho.
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Post by Hang_em_high » Wed 21 Apr, 2010 12:05

komis wrote:
Hang_em_high wrote:Funny you should post this tonight. I was only thinking this evening about transplanting an ///m engine into my facelift 2.8 and what it would entail. I prefer the facelift look and would end up with a one off facelift ///m power Zed mmmmmmm :D
i know someone in greece that's done a 1.9 (late pre-facelift) to 3.0 and also another guy that's done a 1.9 to 3.2 (M) conversion... the latter case required lots of parts (including front suspension & electrics) so wasn't a simple case, the former case was pretty much plug-and-play though...

I've been considering a 2.8 (facelift) to 3.0 conversion... same fuel economy, better HP plus lower emissions... would it be worth it? My engine only has 30K on it tho.
My engine has also only done 30k but would recoupe a large chunk of money when sold on. You would have to factor in the cost of strengthening the rear diff mount/floor pan,upgrade brakes and suspension etc etc. Would cost quite a bit I imagine but would benefit from having a facelift ///m.
Cant really see the point of transplanting a 3.0l lump into a 2.8 when you can buy a facelift 3.0 :?
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Post by stu » Wed 21 Apr, 2010 16:03

Deano1712 wrote:My M engine will be for sale in a few months. It will be complete with ancillaries, gearbox, harness and controller. If anyone wants it all make me an offer.
Thinking of something LS?

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Post by aceman » Wed 21 Apr, 2010 18:46

stu wrote:
Deano1712 wrote:My M engine will be for sale in a few months. It will be complete with ancillaries, gearbox, harness and controller. If anyone wants it all make me an offer.
Thinking of something LS?

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Post by stu » Wed 21 Apr, 2010 20:35

My baby son's 6 months now, that's my excuse for missing some threads.

Thanks for pointing it out.
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Post by komis » Thu 22 Apr, 2010 07:11

Hang_em_high wrote: Cant really see the point of transplanting a 3.0l lump into a 2.8 when you can buy a facelift 3.0 :?
True, sadly though the market in greece is pretty different from the UK, higher capacity engine cars are relatively rare here due to over-taxation. I'd have a really hard time sourcing a 3.0 here (particularly one with the extended leather option, which I really like on my current car).
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Post by fok » Wed 28 Apr, 2010 23:13

stu wrote:
Thinking of something LS?

:twisted:

I've got an LS1 powered Coupe..........It's nippy.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conversio ... coupe.html

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Post by stu » Thu 29 Apr, 2010 20:03

Ah, another one - Snatch's car had me dribbling and when I saw it at the pod it was very impressive to look at, but had some issues with the mapping to sort. I asked Rich to give me first refusal if he sells!

How's yours running? Mapping all sorted?

The RX7 certainly ran well, as did the Cerby with the longer WB, able to get much more traction it appears, not the Z's ideal suit really, being so short.
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Post by fok » Thu 29 Apr, 2010 21:14

stu wrote:Ah, another one - Snatch's car had me dribbling and when I saw it at the pod it was very impressive to look at, but had some issues with the mapping to sort. I asked Rich to give me first refusal if he sells!

How's yours running? Mapping all sorted?

The RX7 certainly ran well, as did the Cerby with the longer WB, able to get much more traction it appears, not the Z's ideal suit really, being so short.
Yes, mine's mapped now, although live mapped for the street. It would still benefit from top end mapping on the dyno and I've yet to get a power figure.

You're absolutely spot on regarding the wheelbase, it caught me out a few times on a wet track day :)

Rich's motor is crazy overkill and gone 7.0 litre with a stroker kit now!

I will just be ordering a large dose of driving talent before any further tuning!

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Post by snatch » Thu 29 Apr, 2010 21:41

The wheel base of the Z3M is exactly the same to the mm as the RX7 in length, I personally think the Z's handle the power very well. Unless your on a drag strip or track you drive on the torque not revs.
I challange anyone to have a ride in mine and tell me that it does not drive as easy as any standard car even a 1.9. It really is a pussy cat.

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Post by Deano1712 » Thu 29 Apr, 2010 21:50

All this LS talk is getting me itching to get started fitting mine. For info mine is going to be standard LS376/480 spec with a factory controller kit and drive-by-wire throttle :D
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Post by snatch » Thu 29 Apr, 2010 21:53

Anytime you want to look at mine for idea's ... your welcome.. like i said craig will make a kit for for you to fit yours no probs... 0121 753 0415

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Post by fok » Thu 29 Apr, 2010 22:12

[quote="snatch"]Anytime you want to look at mine... your welcome.

Dogging again mate?

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Post by stu » Fri 30 Apr, 2010 13:08

fok wrote:You're absolutely spot on regarding the wheelbase, it caught me out a few times on a wet track day :)

I will just be ordering a large dose of driving talent before any further tuning!
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Good quote!

The Z has the worst lift off oversteer I've ever come across to be honest, but actually is very stable and balanced under throttle.
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