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Z3 Mark
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Strut Brace questions

Post by Z3 Mark » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 21:34

Is a strut brace as it appears, literally just a metal bar that bolts to the top of the struts? Nothing it going to fall out removing the bolts first is it? I can foresee something underneath falling down :lol:

Everyone on here seems to think they improve the handling and if it is just a bolt on job I think I might have to get one :D

Also more to the point does anyone have any recommendations on one or where to get one and is there anything else I may need to know seeing as I have a tiny little 1.9 :lol:
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Del » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 21:54

It's safe to remove the 3 little strut top bolts on a stationary car - nothing drops off :D I have one fitted to my 1.9. I fitted it at the same time as renewing the shock absorbers and refreshing the anti-roll bars. Shortly before, I had also replaced the front wishbones (aka control arms). All together, it was like driving a new car :)

I would be wary about just fitting a strut brace if the other suspension parts are all a bit tired. The strut brace for the 1.9 is quite rare as it has to clear the top of the inlet manifold - mine is made by a firm called E Tech. Picture of mine below.

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Z3 Mark » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 22:01

Del wrote:I would be wary about just fitting a strut brace if the other suspension parts are all a bit tired. The strut brace for the 1.9 is quite rare as it has to clear the top of the inlet manifold
Sod it, that pretty much puts an end to that idea then! Everything on the car feels bloody warn and bit by bit I'm "refreshing" it, so thought the brace could be part of that, I'd rather not risk messing anything up so It'll have to wait until the distant future then I guess.

Thank you for the detailed reply, really grateful :)
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Del » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 22:03

I would say the brace is the "icing on the cake" and best to get the cake sorted out first :)

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Jonttt » Sun 18 Jan, 2015 00:14

Del wrote:I would say the brace is the "icing on the cake" and best to get the cake sorted out first :)
Amen to that, so many people want to mod a car before getting the basics sorted
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Keynun » Tue 20 Jan, 2015 20:10

As everyone else says, sort out the suspension until you are happy with it, then add in a strut brace. It won't make as much difference as new shocks/springs/wishbones at the front.

I recently got a new strut brace from these guys:
http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/uprated/ ... MW/z3.html

I bought the weicher sport steel (Red) for my 2.8, fitted on well and looks good. Cheap too at £90 delivered, there's quite a few options on there.

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by bertiejaffa » Tue 20 Jan, 2015 22:15

When I got mine I asked gookah for his advise... Bearing in mind his car has been looked after very well, his advise was similar to what has already been said.

Replace tyres to remove most of the tramlining
Replace bushes and suspension if you can, whilst it's often not a failure they are often 15+ years old
Then fit a strut brace as the cherry on the Kipling
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by akirk » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 11:00

I would agree that if everything else is worn it needs replacing - so don't do strut brace as an alternative...
but I can't see it making the car worse even if the other bits are not yet done, so wouldn't be worried about the order in which you do it...

I added a strut brace to my 3.0l it transformed the car...
the car is at 123k and still running on the original suspension which doesn't appear to need changing I have just spent a day in it with one of the top driving trainers in the country driving it as well as me and he felt it was very sorted... we also were throwing it around at Bruntingthorpe doing very high speed chicanes / stopping / slaloms / etc. - no issues...
so don't assume that the suspension is dead just because of age...

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by billibob » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 11:54

Fitted one to my 3.0 ltr about 3 months ago. Not a massive difference but is still noticeable. I think straight one's are better as no chance of flexing, as this is why you would fit one.
I also fitted one on my E46 330 tourer around the same time, same effect. 8-)

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by pingu » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 12:15

Don't forget to tell your insurers. It must be No.1 on the checklist for get-out-clauses on BMWs by now.
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by swappy » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 18:34

Do they charge you more if you tell them? :roll:

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by pingu » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 20:23

swappy wrote:Do they charge you more if you tell them? :roll:
Some do, some don't. But one thing is sure, if you don't tell them and they find out, they won't pay out in full.
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by nkfb1 » Sun 25 Jan, 2015 09:00

I agree tyres first . Rest depends on mileage re the rest of suspension. Rear bushes on front wishbones may have some play and are a cheap fix.

Try googling Weichers strut bar and bearing in mind how much your car weighs don't worry about aluminium. Steel is cheaper and inherently stronger . Go for a straight bar if you can. I like mine on my 2.8. Placebo or not it just feels tighter and is also an reinforcement to the turrets which can fail if you push them very hard regularly . Should be fine for just everyday driving though.

Admiral charge and extra £17 per year .

Don't forget you are supposed to have feed back, and it s a sports car. If you don't want that but a JAG :D

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Inferno » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 15:50

anybody knows if an E30 4cyl strut brace will fit a 4cyl Z3? i found one made from aluminum in a very good price
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by wassell » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 20:29

I doubt it as e30 braces wont fit an e36, and the z3 uses an e36 front end.

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Inferno » Sun 22 Mar, 2015 21:35

wassell wrote:I doubt it as e30 braces wont fit an e36, and the z3 uses an e36 front end.
So an e36 4cyl strut brace, fits a 4cyl z3?
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by wassell » Mon 23 Mar, 2015 13:51

Maybe. Ive tried e36 braces on the z3 and they fouled the bonnet.

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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by lmrdave » Tue 24 Mar, 2015 09:36

Get a solid one piece bar. If it's bolted to separate mounts like 90% of the ones I've seen it's pretty much useless.

I got a solid bar (forget the make - will check) for an E36 (cost about £100), it fouled the bonnet . . . until I took an angle grinder to it :D
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by bertiejaffa » Tue 24 Mar, 2015 12:39

FYI - I seem to remember the 1.9 version has to be bent to get over the top of the engine
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Inferno » Tue 24 Mar, 2015 12:44

i don't know if it makes any difference, but my engine is the M43 1.8 8V i think it "sits" lower than the double camshaft M44 1.9
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Re: Strut Brace questions

Post by Bonzo » Mon 13 Apr, 2015 00:10

Hi all. I purchased an ASC straight front strut brace from E-bay and fitted it to Zelda. I had to ream out the 6 fixing holes a little to allow the flanges on the nuts to fit the recesses in the plates. The ones adjacent to the welds more than the others.
The plates are contoured to fit over the raised sections on top of the struts and the earth terminal cut out is in the correct place. Just a few wiggles were necessary when connecting up, but it all went together okay. The strut is a beefy, solid piece of kit. and most importantly there were no clearance issues when closing the bonnet, just a little more pull required on the release handle. I would recommend it. Will get the Strong Strut rear brace sometime soon, even though it is pricey!

Cheers all,

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