The ULTIMATE Horror Story

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The ULTIMATE Horror Story

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Bear with me on this one, it’s a long post but really does describe what is the ultimate nightmare and one that I hope no-one else has been through or might go through in the future. Let's hope the title of this thread doesn’t make a newspaper headline someday soon, whether it does or not is not in my hands….

I bit of background for those that don’t know. I am the lucky owner of a superb Z4M Coupe, complete with Individual paintwork, extended leather and all the toys. The last car that will grace the S54 lump and a totally superb driving machine albeit with not much change from £50grand. The car is 4 weeks old, run in and has 1800 miles on the clock.

On Sunday evening I was returning from a trip to Snowdonia with my brother who had just run the marathon (mad bugger!). We pulled off the M54, planning to join the M6 toll to avoid the usual Sunday evening M6 traffic. I was just under ¼ full on fuel, but as we joined the A460 the welcoming lights of a BP fuel station came into view and as I only ever put either Shell’s VPower or BP Ultimate into my performance cars it made sense to fill up before hitting the motorway, thus ensuring a further 170 odd miles of uninterrupted travel home.

Bear with me, because the details might at some point be important, I don’t know.

My brother Chris had said he would pay for the fuel as I had been his chauffeur and supporter during his gruelling run. So I found the sole Ultimate pump, opened the fuel cap and Chris told me he would pay cash. The pump started clicking to indicate the tank was nearing full and we stopped at £38 on the nail. Chris asked me if I wanted a receipt and I said no. (Paying by cash and therefore not getting a receipt is extremely unusual for me.)

Fuel bill paid, we fired up the car and rejoined the single carriageway road. After only a few yards I noticed out of the corner of my eye the gear stick shuddering violently, this barely had time to register when I noticed the orange engine light come on, quickly followed by the EML light, then the car stuttered, stalled and came to an unceremonious halt. I was only just able to coast the car onto the side of the road, luckily into a farm entrance turning thus out of harms way as the impatient Sunday evening traffic thundered by.

Perplexed, I turned the key a few times...turned over fine, but couldn’t fire and sounded like a bag of nails or your granny spluttering on her 27th Capstan Full Strength of the day. One call later to BMW assist and I was assured rescue within the hour, taking the car to a destination of my choice (I chose my dealer Murketts, Huntingdon about 170 miles further south).

As my brother and I waited for the rescue truck to arrive we began analysing what had happened. Obviously we assumed the fuelling exercise was to blame and I began to my horror to consider whether I had inadvertently fuelled up with Ultimate diesel and not petrol (the branding is very similar). Deep down I knew this could not be the case, as it is impossible to fit the nozzle of a diesel pump into a modern petrol car. Notwithstanding this and eager to be certain, my brother ran back to the garage to check. He returned to confirm we had fuelled up with Ultimate 98 petrol and indeed our transaction was still showing on the pump. He also consulted the guy serving who also confirmed we had not made the most stupidest of mistakes.

Anyhow, the car has been at Murketts since Sunday evening and only today has the whole horror unfolded. I received a call initially on Tuesday to confirm that a sample had been taken from the bottom of the tank and early signs were that it was petrol, so further investigating was taking place to get a full diagnosis. Mid afternoon today a further call from Murketts to say that all other options had now been ruled out and the tank had been emptied and shown to consist of roughly 75% water! The dealership have confirmed to me that a replacement fuel filter and tank flush would solve the problem and all things being equal, I would get the car back tomorrow problem fixed, albeit I would be around £200 lighter thanks to their labour and a new fuel filter. They also stated that there should be no lasting damage to engine or cats.

Not that I don’t trust Murketts (they have looked after my CSL and Andy Pressland Service Manager is the one and only bloke I would ever trust to deal with my cars) but I needed to get a second opinion on whether water could in fact damage the engine. The key point here is of course that none of this will be covered by my warranty so you can understand my concerns. One call later (cheers SteveD) and my mind had been put at rest.

Unfortunately, 20 minutes later I received a further call from Murketts to say that on draining the fuel, sludge and debris has been found at the bottom of my tank and as such it was necessary to undertake further tests to assess the damage which could be considerable. Fuel lines, injectors etc etc could be damaged and ultimately I guess the engine itself may be affected. Andy had taken pictures with the aid of a mirror showing the brown discharge which I picked up from the bottom of the BP fuel station tank along with 40 litres of water. Judge for yourselves - (that brown stuff shown in the mirror has NO place in the fuel tank of a 4 week old car.....)

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I have of course been in touch with BPs Customer Care line, I called initially yesterday to give them a heads up that there could be a problem. I was given a case number, but was told that the garage concerned was an independent and, as such, BP themselves could not be held liable for any claims unless it became apparent that they had delivered contaminated fuel. A letter has apparently been sent to me (not yet received) and more importantly to the garage in question noting the fact that there could be a claim for fuel contamination.

Following Murketts last call today I spoke again with BP Customer Care and have told them that fuel contamination IS to blame and that water plus god knows how much crap has been deposited in my car. I was told that the matter had already been raised with the garage concerned (and BPs local area manager was also aware of the situation), and a 'dip test' of the tank concerned was being arranged (anyone know what this is or who undertakes it?) The results of this test will be known tomorrow and I am to expect a call from the garage owner with further news.

I’m preparing for a call stating that 'all is fine with their fuel' and the onus is therefore on me to prove contamination/negligence or whatever. Whilst I do not hold a receipt, my transaction will be logged and BMW assist have details of my breakdown and the breakdown guy that picked us up also knows the exact location in relation to the filling station concerned and this is documented

Why am I posting then?

Well firstly because I’m wondering whether anyone here has ever come across such a situation and if so how was it resolved?

Also because we should all be aware that just because a garage sells the fuel of a multi-national oil giant that apparently doesn’t mean that oil giant takes responsibility.

And finally because I’m wondering whether anyone here has any suggestions as to what my next course of action should be should the garage owner be stupid enough to contest his responsibility. Trading Standards, Product Liability Insurers, Solicitors letter and ultimately (pardon the pun) a letter to whoever the hell owns BP might be in order (I’m sure they won’t want their good name plastered over local and possibly national newspapers…..)

Thanks for listening and I’ll keep you posted. In the meantime here’s a picture of the bloody car concerned, hopefully you can share my pain :(


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Post by Gazza »

Giles,

1st of all I'm sorry for your pain.

2nd, I would request a copy of the forecourt security tape to confirm your time/date of purchase ( the tapes must be kept for 7 days by law before re-use ) do it now !!!



PS I'm glad to see you have enough sense of humour to make a pun from your plight.

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OMG!! :shock: I'm practically speechless Giles! I've never heard of anything like this but I really hope the damage to your M is not too severe - I would imagine that the fuel filter caught all the crap so I wouldn't expect any other problems.

If you don't get any admittance of liability from BP then it would almost certainly be worth going public with this - it is very likely that you were not the only one who filled up with this gunk that day and other owners are facing a similar scenario.

Good luck with getting the M back soon :(
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I feel for you, mate. :(
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giles have you contacted your insurance company yet , I am sure they would arrange an independant test. It should be them that are pursuing the claim not you.
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I'm gutted for you mate!

Hope you get this sorted as painlessly as possible.

I just wonder how many other people got a tank of sludge that day :shock:
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That's disgusting. I always assumed that today's fuels were 'clinically clean and pure' when they came out of the retail pump nozzle. Obviously that's not necessarily the case.

But how could you have checked for this, even if (like all of us now) you were aware of the potential problem?
Short of pumping a sample into a glass jar, inspecting its clarity and contamination levels, what can you do to protect you and your P&J from such blatent negligence?

Even without the receipt ( :shock: No VAT receipt? You run your own business, don't you?) how could they possibly deny it?
Along with the forecourt video, maybe you should demand a copy of the tank contamination test results too?

I've never heard of this problem before, but I'll be thinking of it every time I fill up now!

Really sorry to hear this story Giles and hope it gets resolved quick.

Keep us posted.

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Not quite the same thing - my wife was driving my MR2 Turbo she stopped for fuel at the nearest station to us and when I got in the car it was sluggish and misfiring.

As she doesn't normally put fuel in the cars I assumed she had mistakenly filled up with diesel. I asked to see the receipt but she didn't have it, I then took her to the garage and got her to show me the pump she'd used.

The pump was labelled 97 Super and she insisted it ws the one she'd used. I went into the forecourt and asked if that pump was delivering 97 petrol, I was assure it was.

The next day I noticed that there was a cover on the pump and it remained closed for the day.

When the car went into the garage it was diagnosed as having had diesel put into the tank. It cost be about £200 to sort out but I beleive my wife that she had put petrolo in the car ( or at least that was what the pump advertised ) I think the garage cocked up the labelling, or had diesel put into the petrol storage tank.

Can't prove anything and of course the garage deny it but makes you think. I did ask the garage that repaired it if anyone else had the same problem recently but they sid not.
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Commiserations old chap, I think the fuel system has enough filters built into it, to safe guard the pump, injectors etc, I would reckon a good flush and perhaps new filters is the main thing, and of course they must pay, you can prove it was their petrol that did the damage.
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Giles, the internet's a powerful tool and with V Power getting a lot of good press, I'd have thought Marketing at BP wouldn't want a load of negative publicity about their 'ULTIMATE'.

Best of luck with this.
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Post by Robin »

Sorry to hear this Giles. How infuriating.
I pressume they'd recently washed out their tanks as it was 75% water & they'd stirred up the sludge in the process. I wonder what authority regulates this. The HSE perhaps. I imagine regular cleaning of petrol station tanks is a legal requirement. If necessary your solicitor could ask to see their records. Lets hope it doesn't come to that.
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That truly is a nightmare of a story!!

About 5 years ago I used to work for Tesco in the stock control department, one of my duties was to check that the right amount of fuel was delivered to the correct tanks and that the delivery receipts tied up. This particular store had about 6 pumps, 4 nozzles on each pump and then five or six underground tanks.

IIRC the minimum level for any of the underground tanks was 1500 litres of fuel before the computer warned the forecourt operators that the tank had to be shut down. The tank should never get this low as the system is automated and the petrol depot would send a tanker nearly every night to replenish the low tanks.

Petrol is lighter than water so will float on top, as long as there is enough petrol in the tank so the chance of getting water in your fuel tank is very low. As the underground tanks get older the more likely they are to leak and take on water. Most underground tanks have some % of water in them unless they are brand new.

When the fuel crisis was happening a few years back all the tanks at this store were down to the min levels so the garage had to close. The staff however were offered the opportunity to fill up with petrol but we had to accept that as the tank was below the safe level that we could damage our cars. Luckily know one to my knowledge got water in their tanks.

It sounds to me like the garage you filled up at had gone past the safe level but instead of shutting the pump down they carried on selling petrol not wanting to lose any business. I reckon you got a very expensive tank full of whatever was lurking at the bottom their tank :head:

I'd get trading standards involved. Also I remember seeing council stickers on some of the pumps in my area saying they had past the weights and measures test for accuracy.

Most garages take delivery in the early hours of the morning when the garage is closed to customers. They can not fill the tanks if the pumps are in use because the tank readings would start to show errors. If anyone is really worried about what they are pumping fill up first thing in the morning from a large garage and stay clear of the independents that change brand every couple of years.

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OH NO - what a complete nightmare Giles. I'm extremely sorry to hear this, and very concerned. Other than the horror of your new motor conking out in an alarming manner hundreds of miles from home near a busy road, it is a worry not knowing what the long term damage may be. Hopefully, it'll be something and nothing as others have suggested, but the fear is the thing, isn't it?

If it comes to generating publicity to sort this out, hang it around the fact that your brother was returning from a charity run. He a good samaritan, and you a good samaritan driver. The papers will love that.
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Thats a pain mate, :head: :head: :head: :head: :head:

hope it gets sorted quickly



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Giles, would you mind if I linked this thread to Pistonheads? I'm sure there will be some very interested people over there and with 35,000+ readers someone is bound to have had a similar experience.

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Best of luck sorting this out mate. I don't see them wriggling out of this one, though quite who is liable is another matter entirely. Cheers R.
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I have spoken to a friend of mine who was a garage owner involved in petrol sales. He said that the garage will do everything they can to get out of this one. The dip test is done by themselves and if they find a problem they will pump the water out asap.
Your best course of action is to find someone else who has suffered the same crisis to help prove the case.
Sorry I can't be more constructive.

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I've had a quick call from Gi this morning and, fingers crossed, there's light at the end of the tunnel.

I'll leave the rest to him, but at this stage, I don't think he'd want this publicising more widely to prevent it compromising his situation.
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Really sorry to hear about this horrible experience, Giles.

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sorry about your problem giles,hope bp come up good

yes this has happened to me,right,i filled up with petrol at a bp station in harlow,on leaving the petrol station i joined the m11 northbound,about 1/2 a mile the down the road,the car spluttered and i pulled over on the hardshoulder,great im on my way to a wedding,anyway called the aa,they came,and i told them i had just filled up,and on checking what was coming out the fuel pump indeed it was water,he collected a sample in a bottle and he towed me back to harlow passed the garage,when we see about six other cars all broken down,,we went in the garage and all the cars had water in the fuel,by then they had shut the pump down,all said and done,bp paid for all flush through etc,and all the other cars as well,i recieved a letter from them to say,indeed the tank was contaminated and how sorry they was blah blah etc,

dont know if that helps but i had the aa on my side plus a load of other drivers so the odds were against them
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I would immediately contact the Trading Standards Department for the area concerned and report the matter. Notwithstanding the damage to your vehicle you have been sold sub standard fuel which is an offenceo under the Trade Descriptions Act. You will also have more backing for any civil claim against the garage and with a bit of luck there wil still be rubbish in their tank. I would also make sure samples of the rubbish in your fuel tank are kept as the two can then be compared to hopefully prove the source of contamination came from that petrol station.
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risquenun wrote:I would immediately contact the Trading Standards Department for the area concerned and report the matter. Notwithstanding the damage to your vehicle you have been sold sub standard fuel which is an offenceo under the Trade Descriptions Act. You will also have more backing for any civil claim against the garage and with a bit of luck there wil still be rubbish in their tank. I would also make sure samples of the rubbish in your fuel tank are kept as the two can then be compared to hopefully prove the source of contamination came from that petrol station.
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Well after a fairly sleepless night, my mobile went this morning and on not recognising the number I knew it was going to be the garage - BP Customer Services has promised me the owner would call me first thing.

I knew that the first few words spoken would decide whether there was to be mind numbing conversations with Trading Standards, Solicitors, countless letters, endless phone calls...OR my faith in humanity just might be restored....

Well I'm delighted and actually a little surprised to report that the garage owner couldn't have been more honest and up front. The situation is that his Ultimate tank was found to contain between 100 and 150 litres of water and sludge which he admitted right from the off. Apparently so far there has been one other car affected apart from mine and his Product Liability Insurance cover will cover all expenses incurred by me and any other unfortunates.

However, bless him, I'm not sure that initially he quite appreciated the enormity of the situation in relation to a race tuned BMW 6 cylinder M lump contaminated by his effluent. He told me to get my dealer to sort the problem and send him the bill. He would settle up with me and claim from his Insurance company. I told him I was still awaiting for the final assessment by Murketts to be delivered and that I would call him once this was to hand.

Andy at Murketts told me that obviously I would require the car to be returned to it's original condition following its PDI just prior to when I collected it 5 weeks ago. Obviously I said yes. The cost to ensure this was the case would mean ensuring no microscopic particles could find their way into any part of the car and cause damage either now, or in the future. This would mean replacing the tank, fuel injectors, fuel lines, heaters etc etc and as such the bill would run into thousands not hundreds as I‘m sure the garage owner was anticipating. Andy told me there is a certain diesel model currently at Murketts which was mistakenly fuelled with petrol and the bill for this little mind-slip will be in the region of £6000.

Given this info I rang back our friendly garage owner and suggested to him that I certainly didn't have access to the kind of cash that would probably be required to sort the problem and for that matter neither would he. Details of insurance broker would be required and Murketts should deal direct as a loss adjuster will without doubt be involved.

I have to say to his credit, the garage owner has been nothing but helpful providing all details I have asked for and giving me his mobile number etc etc, There was no mention of proving it my car was on his forecourt and has stated several times that all he wants is for the matter to be resolved and concluded swiftly and with minimal inconvenience to me. He also confirmed he had received a letter from BP which I reckon basically states he has no choice if he wants to continue to sell their product!

Lessons learned?

Well I'll never fuel up again at an out of town independent station. It's been suggested to me by a friend who works for a company that dip tests fuel tanks, that he only ever uses busy sites such as Motorway Service stations and avoids smaller independent garages like the plague, BP, Shell or whatever.

I've heard about many horror stories through the columns of this and many other fora and can only consider that on this occasion I've been lucky, although the work still has to be done and the insurance company cough up. It also appears that this problem is more prevalent than one might imagine, so next time you entrust your pride and joy to the mercy of the pump nozzle, have a think about just exactly what you might be discharging into your car.....

Cheers for listening.
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Post by Robin »

Excellent news.
Sounds like the garage proprietor is as keen to avoid Trading standards as you are. One wonders if there are sometimes low levels of contaminents in petrol that don't do our cars a great deal of good, but that we never really get to know about.
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Glad things are progressing in the right direction.

Fingers still crossed for you!

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Excellent news!
Andy told me there is a certain diesel model currently at Murketts which was mistakenly fuelled with petrol and the bill for this little mind-slip will be in the region of £6000.

...that's because the fuel pump in a diesel requires the diesel fuel as a lubricant. As soon as that dissapears it kills the pump almost instantly and new pumps cost thousands. You shouldn't have any such worries with yours. I'd be very surprised if a simple fuel filter change and tank cleanout didn't fully restore your pride and joy to it's former glory but then as it's not you paying I understand why you don't want to take any risks.

Good result so far - lets hope it stays that way.
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Yikes.. hope it gets sorted for you, can't imaging how pi55ed off i would be...
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glad thats sorted giles,yep best to fill at a larger petrol station,and maybe wait for a pump that is been used ,than use an empty one,all said and dsone,i bet that was a little bit stressful anyway,id be dam shaking my fists by now,but you handled it well,
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Gi, I just hope there are the parts available for you car! Best speak to Murketts about that loaner you mentioned!
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...that's because the fuel pump in a diesel requires the diesel fuel as a lubricant. As soon as that dissapears it kills the pump almost instantly and new pumps cost thousands. You shouldn't have any such worries with yours. [/quote]

I understand that the same applies with petrol models, run them dry and the life of the pump is severely shortened.
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I think it's only diesels that run on extrmely high pressures that have catastrophic failure resulting from contamination isn't it?
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Firstly - sorry to hear of your troubles mate - thats's terrible - I've never heard of such thing - I've heard of making sure you don't run dry as you might get any crap at the bottom of the tank into the engine and not putting diesel in petrol or vice versa, but never heard of getting so much water and gunk straight from a pump! :head:

Secondly - glad to hear that the problem is progresing in the right direction as far as you're concerned. Hope you'll have your prife and joy back up and running swiftly.

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BimBeema wrote:I've heard of making sure you don't run dry as you might get any crap at the bottom of the tank into the engine
Does it suck petrol from the top of the tank then?
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Engine pretty much destroyed on a 5 week old car , I would have thought that the only way the get your car back to the origional condition would be a complete new car. best of luck with it all though
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SpunkyM wrote:Excellent news!
Andy told me there is a certain diesel model currently at Murketts which was mistakenly fuelled with petrol and the bill for this little mind-slip will be in the region of £6000.

...that's because the fuel pump in a diesel requires the diesel fuel as a lubricant. As soon as that dissapears it kills the pump almost instantly and new pumps cost thousands. You shouldn't have any such worries with yours. I'd be very surprised if a simple fuel filter change and tank cleanout didn't fully restore your pride and joy to it's former glory but then as it's not you paying I understand why you don't want to take any risks.

Good result so far - lets hope it stays that way.
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It's a pig what's happened to that car, and you know I love that colour, that is my dream colour, but I am glad the garage owned up. At least now, inconvenience aside, you can rest knowing it will be brought back to it's former glory. Gorgeous machine.

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The crap in the gas has no way to go besides the filters and pump. These obviously need to be changed but the tubes (before the filter) and the tank can be cleaned and they will be fine. The fuel pump might only need to be cleaned though. Best case schenario would actually be that the engine died of fuel starvation because the filters were clogged...

Something more serious is the water. It might have been sucked in to the engine going through the pumps and injectors. Water tends to be corrosive if let to stay. Hopefully the carage started the flush pretty soon. To be safe the injectors should be changed, they might be OK though but no way to know for sure. Other parts of the engine should not be affected at all.

Taking these into account the "estimated bill" seems excessive. There is no need to replace everything "just to be sure". I would not want a wannabe mechanic ripping all the fuel lines and other components all over the engine and possible causing problems in the future.

I'm not sure if this is available on your side of the world but we have a antifreeze (alcohol mixture) here which can be put on the tank and it will "dissolve" the water to the gas. This water-fuel mixture will be burned with gas and leave the tank and fuel system dry (without water). This could be a good idea AFTER the parts have been replaced and you have the car back to get absolutely all of the water out of the systems.

I have allways wondered why the gas stations do not put some of this antifreeze on their tanks to get rid of this water in their tanks and prevent corrosion?
Also...with the new fuel types that contain a BIO-component (seems to be mostly alcohol btw.) it seems to me that these would actually do this but I haven't found any mention of this anywhere...
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Murketts my dealer called today.

The garage's insurance company had phoned and given the go ahead for the work to commence.

The list includes filters, injectors, fuel lines and cats. The only items the loss adjusters are unhappy about replacing are the tank itself and the spark plugs. They reckon a jet wash should sort the tank and I haven't a clue about why the spark plugs might be a problem. I guess the LA has to do some work on keeping costs down.

I suppose I can't blame him, the total bill is for repairs is £4300, and that excludes a full tank of lovely Shell VPower....none of that Ultimate rubbish thank you very much :shake:

Overall, obviously I'm thoroughly pissed off that this has happened in the first place, but at least those at fault admitted their liability and the insurance companies have done their job, surprisingly swiftly it seems....but I can't help thinking 'Mr BP' might have had some input....
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Post by Robert T »

That's good news Giles. And also good to know that Mr. BP won't be having any more input into your tank! :lol:
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I can't possibly imagine how the cats would have suffered but hey, good result I suppose. A better result would have been if it never happened in the first place though :roll:
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giles,a bad story came good,the proff of the pudding will be when its done and you drive it again,im sure youll know if there is the slighest differance in performance etc,im sure this wont be the last time it will happen to someone,so as a precaution im now
1.useing larger petrol stations
2.useing a pump that has just been used
3.carring a large bomb to blow up the said pump if it does happen :wink: :wink:
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Hope all is sorted Ok :(
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Post by Jon Miller »

Giles,
Sorry to ready about this it must be very annoying to say the least!

However it is refreshing to read a post of this type where the party at fault has owned up straight away and the innocent isn't left having to fight for the right thing to be done, if only more people in the garage owners position did "the right thing" the world would be a more pleasant place.

Hope it gets sorted for you quickly.

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After at least week of waiting, Murketts phoned today to say that at last the items that had been on back order have arrived.

I get my car back in a week, although oddly I'm not sure I want it back to be honest. Just feels like it's been polluted in more ways than one and I wonder if it'll ever be the same :(
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Post by DavidM »

Bloody hell Giles - I hadn't seen this sorry tale until now - awful tale to read
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Giles wrote:After at least week of waiting, Murketts phoned today to say that at last the items that had been on back order have arrived.

I get my car back in a week, although oddly I'm not sure I want it back to be honest. Just feels like it's been polluted in more ways than one and I wonder if it'll ever be the same :(


im not sure about this giles,but they may make you sign for the car saying all done etc,when really you need to drive it for a few weeks to know for sure,i woulnt sign anything,
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Giles wrote:After at least week of waiting, Murketts phoned today to say that at last the items that had been on back order have arrived.

I get my car back in a week, although oddly I'm not sure I want it back to be honest. Just feels like it's been polluted in more ways than one and I wonder if it'll ever be the same :(
Mate, I could be persuaded to take the soiled goods off your hands :mrgreen:

Seriously, I'm sure you'll fall in love with the car again as soon as you drive it :wink:
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Post by garyw »

I hear what your saying Giles, however I'm sure a quick blast out in the car will inspire you once again....
At least you'll have full warranty to cover any other issues being as the dealer has replaced all the things they say were required...

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Post by Gazza »

Giles, total agreement with Stu & Gary, you will soon get the feeling back, it will feel like a new car again I'm sure

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