Had a Z4 3.0i now thinking of a Z4M

texasjohn · Post by **texasjohn** » Tue 17 Feb, 2009 23:33

There are some great deals about at the moment so I am seriously considering a Z4M

Is there anything in particular to watch out for in terms of problems specific to the Z4M R, over and above the general stuff concerning the regular models?

I know to look out for the 1200mile service but that's about it. I understand that they do not have RFTs either.

stu · Post by **stu** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 08:57

Not heard of anything nagative John. Normal steering and none RFT's too!

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 10:45

Some great deals to be had at the moment. Even better deals I suspect in a years time when the remainder of the BMW Select cars hit the market.

I'd love a Z4M Coupe

Jonttt · Post by **Jonttt** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 12:02

There are some fantastic deals to be had now.

My brother has just picked up an absolute mint 56 plate Z4m with 12k on the clock, fully loaded apart from TV and individual leather for less than £18k from a main dealer! (It even has the top spec hifi which is rare) He got nearly £6k off the sticker price

(and a free BMW Sauber umbrella

)

He is absolutley chuffed to bits, but its stuck in the garage until the weather gets better

He was going to wait and was just getting an idea of specs etc... but could not pass on this deal (he walked out of the dealership twice as he was not that bothered and they phoned him back

)

smartypants · Post by **smartypants** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 12:23

Z4s in general are where the bargains are to be had at the moment! Just wait until the new one also hits the shelves

Zed_Steve · Post by **Zed_Steve** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 13:13

smartypants wrote:Z4s in general are where the bargains are to be had at the moment! Just wait until the new one also hits the shelves

Yeah, a great time to release a new model Bet theres loads of people queuing up for one.

smartypants · Post by **smartypants** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 13:46

I doubt we'll see many on the roads too soon!

whiteminks · Post by **whiteminks** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 13:53

Who knows! I guess people will be 'down-sizing' from their Astons and Ferraris with the economy as it is.

texasjohn · Post by **texasjohn** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 14:14

You never know!

Well, I thought I had the bargain of the year, an 08 plate with half decent spec for only £22000

(assumed after negotiation, it's up for £22,850)

There had to be a catch and there indeed was...it had missed the 1200 mile service by 1800 miles

Gutted. Complete waste of 2 hours.

Still, it is at Sytner group Volvo Tollbar in Warwick if anyone fancies it.

But I would get in there quick as I was told "we have someone coming to buy it today and you don't want to lose the chance..."

Make of that what you will but if I had £1 for each time I heard that I would be looking at M6's!

stu · Post by **stu** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 14:36

texasjohn wrote:I was told "we have someone coming to buy it today and you don't want to lose the chance..."

Absolute wangers, do they think you've never bought a car before....

"Selling a Z4M is like making love to a beautiful lady" .........

texasjohn · Post by **texasjohn** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 14:53

Hi Stu

We've met once on, Phil's drive and dine. Good to hear from you again!

As you know I'm 30's and given my 'history' of changing cars once every 9-12 months you can surmise that I've heard this old chestnut a number of times!

Even estate agents try it!

Jonttt · Post by **Jonttt** » Wed 18 Feb, 2009 16:14

John

Wise move to give that one a miss. The 1200 mile service is an absolute. I looked at one with my brother but was advised not to touch it with a barge pole. Shame as it was a nice car.

Market has moved massively in past 2 months with financial climate. Dealers are working on people comparing prices to what they saw 6 months ago / new price and thinking they have got a deal. Really is a buyers market. So long as you can afford the insurance I think the Z4m's are a steal if you are prepared to walk away from anything but a bargain.

As a rule of thumb work on what you thnk price should be and expect to get for 80%. The right dealer will (begrudgingly) do it effectively at cost.

Zed_Steve · Post by **Zed_Steve** » Thu 19 Feb, 2009 13:24

Seems baffling as to why 1200mile run in wasnt done on time, as ive read its supposed to invalidate the warranty and its free!

Jonttt · Post by **Jonttt** » Thu 19 Feb, 2009 15:18

Correct, invalidates warranty if 1,200 mile service is not done on time.

Apparently car is supplied with "mineral" oil. If this is not changed at 1,200 miles can cause serious damage to engine.

Re prices another example of 2 year old Z4m at <£18k from a dealer

http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... a5b#185181

smartypants · Post by **smartypants** » Thu 19 Feb, 2009 15:26

This is only going to get worse for BMW

My mate's PCP is up on his Z4C 3.0si (2007/07) in 18 months time. The guaranteed value for the car is £16,500. They are going to lose a min of 4k when he hands that back. He has already offered to sell it to them for £2k now so they probably won't lose anything.. but they declined

You got to love their arrogance sometimes

doomsdayrunner · Post by **doomsdayrunner** » Thu 19 Feb, 2009 15:42

jonttt wrote:Correct, invalidates warranty if 1,200 mile service is not done on time.

Apparently car is supplied with "mineral" oil. If this is not changed at 1,200 miles can cause serious damage to engine.

Re prices another example of 2 year old Z4m at <£18k from a dealer

http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... a5b#185181

Thats mine your talking about, The wife is going to hand her company car back in Sept 2009 and take money instead, I was going to leave it until later in the year as I have just bought a 11 month old Cayman S, but at the prices of the Z4M's at the moment I could not see the prices dropping any lower in the summer.

greg_ch · Post by **greg_ch** » Thu 19 Feb, 2009 18:56

doomsdayrunner wrote:I could not see the prices dropping any lower in the summer.

Not necessarily.

In order to get sales moving, BMW UK issued a glut of very cheap Z4 ///M Roadsters and Coupes. Backed by cheap money and injudicious guaranteed future values, many of those deals will expire in the spring/early summer. BMW will book as much of the loss as possible in 2008 leaving dealers under less pressure to hit targets.

It's not unreasonable to expect that a sudden upturn in the supply of old shape ///M cars; whose values have been significantly written down already, combined with the launch of a new - albeit non ///M model - we will see another decline in prices.

smartypants · Post by **smartypants** » Thu 19 Feb, 2009 19:09

I agree there is a LOT more to come off a BMW in the next few months

texasjohn · Post by **texasjohn** » Thu 19 Feb, 2009 22:25

Please let me know where to find these deals?

I've offered 23k on a 57 coupe, midnight blue/champagne today. No Nav but it has around 10k miles, heated seats, Hifi speaker, bluetooth and PDC.

It's at Sytner Coventry but reading about the price of that 56 plate Ruby black I'm not sure if I have offered too much?

pingu · Post by **pingu** » Fri 20 Feb, 2009 16:27

texasjohn wrote:Please let me know where to find these deals?

I've offered 23k on a 57 coupe, midnight blue/champagne today. No Nav but it has around 10k miles, heated seats, Hifi speaker, bluetooth and PDC.

It's at Sytner Coventry but reading about the price of that 56 plate Ruby black I'm not sure if I have offered too much?

Tell them that every day they stall you, you'll drop by £1,000.

Watch them twitch.

Cashflow is more important than profit, especially if you can complete before the end of the month.

dario · Post by **dario** » Fri 20 Feb, 2009 18:14

pingu wrote:
texasjohn wrote:
Cashflow is more important than profit, especially if you can complete before the end of the month.

i just love to see compation in action regarding the motor trade!

pingu · Post by **pingu** » Fri 20 Feb, 2009 23:24

dario wrote:
pingu wrote:
texasjohn wrote:
Cashflow is more important than profit, especially if you can complete before the end of the month.
i just love to see compation in action regarding the motor trade!

"Business is business, my boy"

BTW, I'm very close to the motor trade (working for them tomorrow - I'm car collecting from Manchester), so I see it at very close quarters. There is profit to be made, but everybody has to be squeezed until they squeal.

texasjohn · Post by **texasjohn** » Sun 22 Feb, 2009 21:28

pingu wrote:BTW, I'm very close to the motor trade (working for them tomorrow - I'm car collecting from Manchester), so I see it at very close quarters. There is profit to be made, but everybody has to be squeezed until they squeal.

Hi Pingu

Please keep your ear to the ground for me, I am in no hurry to buy but if a good deal comes along I can offer cash (switch payment over the phone) there and then.

Work are pretty flexible so if I need to go and jump in my car to view something at a moment's notice that is possible.

I'll PM you my mobile
/ email

Thanks John