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Post by shantybeater » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 19:54

Ok well as some of you know I recently sold my S50 to my brother because an identical S54 came up at a good price.

Old S50 thread: http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20225

I drove the car back on Friday and woke up this morning with the idea of giving it a 'little' clean. So 8 hours later the outside is done!!

What I did:

Engine bay & door shuts:

The bay was filthy (my S50 put it to shame!!). I started with the underside of the bonnet using swiss vax brushes and AG Engine machine cleaner to agitate the dirt. I kept rinsing at intervals and made sure none of the exterior paint was exposed to the cleaner. I repeated the same process with the door shuts, they came up lovely! :

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- I then coated the enginer bay in AG Vinyl care and using a sponge to coat evenly
- I also coated the paintwork in the engine bay/door shuts with AG wax then buffed off
- I replaced the worn foils to protect the paintwork

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The outside

- Jetwashed then went round washing with AG Shampoo followed by a further rinse
- Dried with Dodo juice towel
- Rubbed on a layer of AG Super Resin polish (inc the wheels to remove marks) and buffed off
- Followed with a coat of AG High Definition Wax, then buffed off

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- Rubbed HD wax into wheel arch paint and buffed off
- Rubbed on Tyre Shine
- I used autosol to bring the exhaust tips back to their former glory (they are WIP though and require more elbow grease)

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The spec:
- Jan 02
- 45k on the clock
- HK Stereo system
- Strong Strut

Problems i've noticed already:
- Dented door sill needs looking at
- Rear wheel has large kerb mark which is very deep, so might be on the lookout for a single rim
- All wheel refurb is needed
- Headlight washer nozzle missing

The Car now looks great! I'll be doing a full work over on the interior once the audio & ACS hoops are fitted. Comments welcome!!
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Post by yalden » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 20:26

That's awesome... is the interior spec identical to your previous M?

I'm definitely going to replicate your door shut procedure on mine 8-)

P.S. The first photo made me think you'd found on in Alpine Weiss! :lol:

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Post by shantybeater » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 20:54

Cheers mate, yes its identical the only difference being the HK Sub :)
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Post by Jonttt » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 21:13

Looks like a genuine unmolested example and bonus having the strong strutt already fitted :D

I remember getting mine 12 months ago and despite going on holiday I could not resist giving it a "quick" clean first :lol:

Re the curbed wheel.....I would get it checked out at a refurbers before deciding to replace as its amazing what they can repair as new :wink:

ps I see the couch is still there :wink:
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Post by tcrichton » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 21:29

Dam she's looking good!

Mine's still gleaming from your pre-delivery wash earlier this week!

Took her out for another spin today (first time with the passenger seat empty)... WOW! Such fun! The pedal just keeps on going... and going...

Saw a 330 with an awquardly stuck on M badge... allowed him the pleasure of hearing a real M overtake...

Must resist driving her until I sell the Audi tho!

Keep up the amazing work bro... I'm now saving up for the £162 of cleaning products you've suggested!

Adjusted those bonnet supports today and now a nice 2-3mm of clearance from the bumper :-)

Dare I ask what Terri thinks of the new motor?

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Post by yalden » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 21:32

I dread to know what a womans perspective would be, haha.

I imagine she see's no difference? :lol:

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Post by Jonttt » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 21:38

I bet he's not told her he's swapped it :D
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Post by shantybeater » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 22:32

Jon - will do, its quite a dent though :(, as for the couch, its not mine..my neighbour dumped it there and it hasnt moved since

tris - cheers bro, I drove around for 2 weeks without realising how far the accelarator pedal went down! haha

As for the Terri, I did tell her jon! she would have noticed the roof color change! she says she prefers the old but she doesnt know why! ah well its not for her anyway!
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Post by tcrichton » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 22:46

Ouch... she's just trying to hit you where it hurts after all you did spend all of today with your car and not her... :roll:

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Post by rgf » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 22:49

Very nice Shanty.
Would you like to come and do mine??
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Post by eame64 » Sun 19 Sep, 2010 23:09

Very nice, love that colour combination.

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Post by tcrichton » Mon 20 Sep, 2010 11:58

Hi Bro...

Just found out something scary...

Was looking into tax on mine out of interest... and saw that as your car was made after March 2001 your should fit into the new road tax brackets...

Before March 2001 it was based on engine size: Under 1549 = £125, over 1549 = £205

I can only find the co2 emissions for the M3 Evo (with a quick google) which puts out 267g/km co2...

This is the highest bracket (M) which is £435 per year!!!

I'm hoping you're not in this bracket somehow....

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Ow ... G_10012524

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Post by tcrichton » Mon 20 Sep, 2010 12:04

Phew... just read this line:

* Band K includes cars that have a CO2 figure over 225g/km but were registered before 23 March 2006

= £245.00

Not so bad after all :-)

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Post by tcrichton » Mon 20 Sep, 2010 12:29

Found something even more rare for you...

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C69910/

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Little expensive... there's a 4.7L roadster somewhere too...

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Post by Jonttt » Mon 20 Sep, 2010 12:59

Don't worry about the tax band "mistake", your borther fell for that one himself (if I remember correctly) when I traded my S50 in for an S54 but he was "educated" on here :D

Re the Hartge Coupe, its well known and well overpriced, the guy who owns it has been trygin to sell it for ages :head:
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Post by shantybeater » Mon 20 Sep, 2010 14:19

Thanks for the comments :)

Bro - As Jon said I had the same impression a while back, had it been in the new tax bracket I would have had second thoughts, £400 on tax a year is crazy. That hartge coupe is lovely, I managed to track a thread somewhere which was about the roadster, I thinks in Europe somewhere!, it changed hands for a fair bit less than the coupe's up for!

P.s I suppose I better change my sig photo now!
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Post by hornel Z3M » Mon 20 Sep, 2010 20:29

Looks great shantybeater. I am picking mine up Saturday so i will be wax on wax off sunday.

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Post by Dolfan » Thu 23 Sep, 2010 13:15

Very nice Shanty, you also have the detailing bug! :D

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Post by shantybeater » Thu 23 Sep, 2010 13:54

cheers guys :)

Hornel - I hope the sale all goes to plan
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Post by shantybeater » Sun 26 Sep, 2010 15:45

Ok since the girlfriend was away for the weekend I decided i'd crack on with the stereo install & clean the interior.

- I removed the CD changer from the boot and placed my JL 300/4 amp in its space.
- I then installed my Focal 130KP K2 components in the doors/footwells and put the crossovers behind the headunit
- I also refitted my rare AC Schnitzer hoops from the S50 (they REALLY didnt want to go in!)
- Then out came the HK sub and after dynamatting the space I put in my custom enclosure with a JL 6w3v3 (Thanks to Glen aka 'Dooby')

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- Finally I replaced the Headunit with my Pioneer DEH-6700MP

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The sound is fantastic, the focals have good clarity and the impressive little 6" Sub compliments with a nice little boom. My god it moves as well!!!

Then came the clean. It was nice to see some beading after last weeks wax

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- I started with a hoover, then went round with a damp cloth to remove the layer of dust/dirt.
- I then polished the rear window with some SRP

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- Next I coated all the leather with AG leather care
- Then all the plastics with AG Vinyl Shine
- All the rubber was coated with Gummipfledge
- After that the windows/exterior lights/gauges/mirrors got a polish with some AG Glass polish
- Finally I polished up the hoops
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Post by CP00black » Sun 26 Sep, 2010 18:34

Looks great! How much Dynamat did you put in? Did you fill with any other additional damping?

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Post by shantybeater » Sun 26 Sep, 2010 18:35

I lined all the sides and any surface which comes into contact with the enclosure. I plan on leaving the sub loose for now to see if any rattles appear
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Post by Razor » Sun 26 Sep, 2010 20:52

Nice job on your car and sound system. Would like to see what you did with your amp in the back. I'm fitting a in dash GPS,TV unit and was think of upgrading my sound aswell but don't know what to do with the amp.
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Post by tcrichton » Sun 26 Sep, 2010 21:19

The sub has a brilliant finish, sits right in... bit visible from the window tho...

Cool that you managed to get the amp in the boot, not sure if I've got enough space behind my seat for it... could do the passenger's tho I guess.

When you next heading down this way, would be good to hear the setup.

Tris.

P.S. Still not sold the Audi :-(

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Post by shantybeater » Sun 26 Sep, 2010 21:28

Razor - cheers mate as it stands its bolted to the carpet so I can remove if necessary. It needs some tidying up though before i show any photos. I'll be interested to see how you get on with yours

Tris - I did think about it being a bit of a 'steal me' factor because its so obvious...probably its only let down but my car is rarely parked anywhere in public. Maybe you could get a 6" speaker grill to cover it if you will park on a road?. As for when you get your amp I really would suggest putting it in the boot since its tidier..Its not THAT much extra effort once you know what to do. Either that or under the seat like you mentioned (if there's room!)

I will hopefully be coming down in the next few weeks..either that or as long as christmas! The sound is great, i took her out for a quick spin earlier and with the roof up the sub really performs well. It sounds more like a 10"!

Have you had any interest in the audi?
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Post by dennisedlin » Mon 27 Sep, 2010 16:22

That's looking great.......I just love that colour combo :D
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Post by dooby » Mon 27 Sep, 2010 18:04

Glad you really happy with it mate, as you know any future questions im only a call away.

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Post by shantybeater » Mon 27 Sep, 2010 19:48

Dennis - It is nice! when i first got the car i wasnt sure about the roof but its definately growing on me

Dooby - Cheers mate, hopefully ill we bump into each other at a meet/show and you can fine tune it for me!
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Post by Gazza » Tue 28 Sep, 2010 13:42

I see the old blue sofa is still around :lol: :lol:
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Post by shantybeater » Tue 28 Sep, 2010 21:12

yep the valet sofa lives on! :lol:
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Post by shantybeater » Tue 26 Oct, 2010 14:48

A quick update: The car is going in for a bearing shell replacement tomorrow. This is purely a preventative measure

I've asked him to hang on to the old shells so I can post up pics incase any other S54 owners are interested. I'm also intrigued to find out what condition they are in.
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Post by shantybeater » Fri 29 Oct, 2010 20:35

Well the bearing shell replacement was carried out at my trusty BMW specialist. £675 lighter but worthwhile for future proofing. All genuine parts & Castrol Edge 10w60

Here are close ups of some of the bearing shells, they look in good condition but for peace of mind I suggest it for any S54 owner:

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The sump was completely cleaned out whilst it was off ready for fresh oil & oil filter. Even after a run the oil still came out like golden syrup on the dipstick :) I'll be running the car in for 1200 miles or so just to be on the safe side
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Post by tcrichton » Thu 04 Nov, 2010 14:37

Where's the pic of the old ones? ;-)
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Post by shantybeater » Fri 05 Nov, 2010 11:35

Haha yeah they don't look too bad, the way I see it is it just means the car has probably led a gentle life. Now this is done I can have her remapped without worrying :)
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Post by robertbentley » Sat 11 Dec, 2010 19:05

Looks good - who did the work ? I'll keep an eye out for you in Bmth - I have an estoril M3 saloon...

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Post by shantybeater » Sun 12 Dec, 2010 13:25

Hi robert, I often see an estoril blue M3 around. I've got such a soft spot for them, seeing an E36 is a breath of fresh air compared to the common as muck e46, I'll give you a wave if i see you 8-)

The work was done at MVT at holton heath. Its a one man band, Paul Skippy, I cant recommend the guy enough, he bends over backwards to meet your needs and takes very good care of the car (unlike some other garages). He is a qualified BMW service manager, worked for BMW for something like 15 years. I would take it to him over a dealership any day of the week since I know only he is working on my car not some lazy apprentice. If you do go to him name drop me (James the Z3M owner), i'm sure he'll do anything to meet your needs, even if its just a chat!
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Post by robertbentley » Mon 13 Dec, 2010 09:37

cheers - I'll keep him in mind if I need someone...

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Post by shantybeater » Tue 04 Jan, 2011 19:16

Quick update, i decided to address the usual rear window issue where the fabric roof seperates from the rubber surround. Using some loctite clear sealant I injected it underneath the cloth but ontop of the plastic window where the rubber sits (where it is not visible and the previous adhesive is).

After injecting around 10cm worth I carefully pushed the fabric underneath the rubber with a credit card. I worked my way round the top and corners until all of the fabric was tucked back in place. I then pushed down on the fabric about a centermeter away from the rubber to flatten the material back down and tuck the material further in place.

The worse part (on a corner) had come away and wouldnt sit in place on its own so I left the card tucked under the rubber at the center of the corner forcing the material in place, after 20 mins or so the sealant had dried enough to hold the material in place.

Before :

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After:

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I'd highly recommend anyone else with the same problem to take a stab at it, it takes 15 mins and smartens up the look massively!!

If you do:
- Make sure the area is bone dry especially inbetween the window and the roof
- Don't go crazy with the sealant, you need enough to hold but once tucked in if you use too much it can spill out, a bit too much will end up on the credit card or the rubber which you can wipe clean but i imagine if you go crazy it could get on the fabric so be careful!
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Post by marcusplowman » Tue 04 Jan, 2011 23:19

Good work on the window seal! I got black silicone to do mine a few months ago but havnt got round to doing it yet...its too cold in the garage at the moment :)

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Post by tcrichton » Wed 05 Jan, 2011 10:37

Nice one!!!

I'll do this on mine soon! Have got some black sealant too!

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Post by Jonttt » Wed 05 Jan, 2011 10:38

Nice job :wink:

If anyone is going to do this don't forget to open up the roof a little (you only need to release the tension by unlocking and lifting the front edge an inch), makes it a lot easier to work on without any tension in the cloth.

I left mine overnight to ensure fully dry before closing the roof but if car is outside you could probably just leave it a few hours ?
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Post by shantybeater » Wed 05 Jan, 2011 19:04

^^ good advice! i didnt think of that!
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Post by Buz007 » Sat 08 Jan, 2011 15:54

is black silicone the best material, I have exactly the same problem and was gonna use superglue!?! :shock:
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Post by Jonttt » Sat 08 Jan, 2011 16:26

I would not use superglue :nono

You can get the black silicon from Halfords :wink:
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Post by Ian Kelly » Wed 12 Jan, 2011 19:47

I got mine off e-bay for a couple of quid...

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Post by ///MRoops » Sat 05 Feb, 2011 18:59

Wow how wonderful to see my old car on here! Glad you are enjoying it! Whilst i had it was very well looked after. I was going to take the strong strut off but I felt that it made the car and couldn't let the new owner experience life without it.

Car looks great - all the best

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Post by shantybeater » Sat 05 Feb, 2011 19:12

Hi MRoops, always nice to hear from a previous owner!! How long did you own the car for? Don't worry i'm taking good care of her!
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///MRoops
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  M roadster S54

Post by ///MRoops » Sat 05 Feb, 2011 19:47

I had the M for around 2 years - purchased it when it had around 20,000 miles and sold 15,000 odd miles later. Bought it around 2006. It really was a great car I miss is so badly; owned a few cars over the years but this one was just a perfect balance of rawness and day to day drivability. I sold the car (due to the arrival of my daughter) at a TVR garage in Henley, few weeks later the garage went into receivership and I never managed to track the car down again (as I was seriously considering a buy back and keeping as a weekend car).

On those rare and sunny days I still think about the zingy, raspy s54 and then snap into the reality of my diesel clap, clonk, cang Alpina D3. I will definitelty own another s54 maybe in CSL guise and hold on to it until i'm old and grey :-)

All the best buddy and I really enjoyed reading through this thread with all all the great work you've done on the car.

shantybeater
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Post by shantybeater » Sun 06 Feb, 2011 13:49

ahh ok so you must have been the previous owner for the guy I bought it off, its strange because the car came up for sale before I bought my S50, unfortunately he beat me to it, two years later it comes up and I only find out its the same car once i'd put a deposit down!! - fate intervening?

I have to agree its a good balance, its my daily driver and I have no problems(although due to pump prices it may end up becoming a weekend toy)

One quick question, did you have an annoying rattle coming from the passenger side of the dash? I'm having a nightmare trying to track it down!!! It resonates as you go over bumps etc..

A CSL is a great choice, good luck on your hunt!
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  M roadster S54

Post by ///More » Fri 11 Feb, 2011 18:22

shantybeater wrote:Well the bearing shell replacement was carried out at my trusty BMW specialist. £675 lighter but worthwhile for future proofing. All genuine parts & Castrol Edge 10w60

Here are close ups of some of the bearing shells, they look in good condition but for peace of mind I suggest it for any S54 owner:

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The sump was completely cleaned out whilst it was off ready for fresh oil & oil filter. Even after a run the oil still came out like golden syrup on the dipstick :) I'll be running the car in for 1200 miles or so just to be on the safe side
Hi all,

I'm new here on this great forum, on even more great car. Apologies to jump in like this as a newbie but, I have to ask how were the bearings changed? With the motor still in it's place, from underneath the car? Also was both, crankshaft bearings and rod bearings changed? Asking as I recently had a 12 yr dream come true and got my own Z3M. Planning to eliminate few weakest links on it, bearings being the priority.

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