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Post by Mor61e » Sat 23 Feb, 2013 00:04

I bought this last weekend and today was the first chance I had to give it a decent wash and look over, can't wait for summer now 8-)

I'll probably document every little thing I do to the car in here just for the sake of it really :lol:

A couple of post clean pics:

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The pictures do it some favours really, it is quite clean overall but has the odd mark here and there, to be sorted out soon anyway :)

The first parts that were ordered (pushing the boat out I know!) :

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Anyone who knows what they are for wins a jammy dodger ^^^

Next on the list is a gear knob as the current one looks like this:

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More progress tomorrow with any luck!
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Post by martyb » Sat 23 Feb, 2013 00:16

cars looking really fresh there, nice one!
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Post by gookah » Sat 23 Feb, 2013 00:24

Mor61e wrote: Image

Anyone who knows what they are for wins a jammy dodger ^^^
The two clips are for the bottom-most trim panels under the dashboard. Left or right are same clips.
The small stopper is for the fuel filler.
I like jammie dodgers with the cream in ... I can pm my postal address.
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Post by Eastsix » Sat 23 Feb, 2013 09:07

Hi Dan - looks nice! I like the interior.
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Post by Del » Sat 23 Feb, 2013 09:19

I assume it’s a post facelift, later 2.8 - nice car and a “keeper” in my view. That gear knob top insert is a non-standard addition; the original would have been plain black. The M style ones are an attractive upgrade and I would recommend a proper BMW one (about £9) as the proper BMW would not degrade like that one has.

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Post by PCSAM » Sat 23 Feb, 2013 10:10

nice clean and tidy car mate . easy parts to change so far :D and one of the last 2.8 made you will love it :D
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Post by Mor61e » Sat 23 Feb, 2013 14:31

martyb wrote:cars looking really fresh there, nice one!
Cheers Pal :)
gookah wrote: The two clips are for the bottom-most trim panels under the dashboard. Left or right are same clips.
The small stopper is for the fuel filler.
I like jammie dodgers with the cream in ... I can pm my postal address.
Haha very good! I'll send one over :P
Eastsix wrote:Hi Dan - looks nice! I like the interior.
Thanks Bill :thumb:
Del wrote:I assume it’s a post facelift, later 2.8 - nice car and a “keeper” in my view. That gear knob top insert is a non-standard addition; the original would have been plain black. The M style ones are an attractive upgrade and I would recommend a proper BMW one (about £9) as the proper BMW would not degrade like that one has.
Ok thanks that's good to know. I'll be getting a whole new gear knob anyway as the chrome is wearing on the other side. I've been looking for an OEM style carbon fibre one but can't find any so i'll stick with the standard I think :)
PCSAM wrote:nice clean and tidy car mate . easy parts to change so far :D and one of the last 2.8 made you will love it :D
Yeh i'm enjoying it so far for sure, even more so once i've sorted all the little niggles!
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Post by Mor61e » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 09:57

Zedonist wrote:
Del wrote:I assume it’s a post facelift, later 2.8 - nice car and a “keeper” in my view. That gear knob top insert is a non-standard addition; the original would have been plain black. The M style ones are an attractive upgrade and I would recommend a proper BMW one (about £9) as the proper BMW would not degrade like that one has.
Just a quick note, there are NO post facelift cars, there are pre facelift and there are facelift versions, yours is a facelift version :D
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Post by Boysie » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 10:07

Hi More61e

Welcome
What a lovely car
I bet you are grinning from ear to ear
Also what a great garage, loads of room to do loads of things

I thought that was just me who has the cig lighter the right way :lol: :lol:

Like me waiting for the summer :) :)
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Post by Mor61e » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 10:26

I noticed the steering wheel sat very slightly to the right while driving straight so I did a quick wheel allignment:

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That'll be why then!

The adjustment:

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The nut came loose relatively easily but would the arm turn? Of course it wouldn't!

After half hour of trying and then simultaneously bending a spanner, punching myself in the face and headbutting the ramp I gave up :lol:
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Post by Mor61e » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 10:32

Boysie wrote:Hi More61e

Welcome
What a lovely car
I bet you are grinning from ear to ear
Also what a great garage, loads of room to do loads of things

I thought that was just me who has the cig lighter the right way :lol: :lol:

Like me waiting for the summer :) :)
Thanks Boysie :)

I wish that was my own garage but unfortunately it's at work, still I get to use it occasionally so I can't complain 8-)
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Post by Brian H » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 10:34

Mor61e

Welcome and nice car :)
Mor61e wrote:I noticed the steering wheel sat very slightly to the right while driving straight so I did a quick wheel allignment:

That'll be why then!

The adjustment:

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The nut came loose relatively easily but would the arm turn? Of course it wouldn't!

After half hour of trying and then simultaneously bending a spanner, punching myself in the face and headbutting the ramp I gave up :lol:
I fitted a complete new assembly, something similar to these late last year, save hassle and time. Clicky Link of course the tracking still has to be done, but it is easily adjusted.

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Post by Mor61e » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 10:57

Brian H wrote: I fitted a complete new assembly, something similar to these late last year, save hassle and time. Clicky Link of course the tracking still has to be done, but it is easily adjusted.
Thanks Brian, a replacement is definately on the cards :wink:
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Post by freck99 » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 14:06

Boysie wrote:
I thought that was just me who has the cig lighter the right way :lol: :lol:
No it's not just you :lol:
I'm terrible with things like that. Have to get the air vents straight too, even when I get in the girlfriends car :roll:

Welcome to the forum too Mor61e :D

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Post by amancuso » Wed 27 Feb, 2013 16:25

Very nice find!
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Post by dallantan » Wed 27 Feb, 2013 16:35

Best colour....



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Post by Pierrick » Wed 27 Feb, 2013 23:06

Nice car. Love the colour!

I have the same gear knob and the center badge is in bad condition as well (end a bit of the chrome has gone!)... but not as bad as yours!! What happend there!!!

If you change the whole gear knob I would be interested to buy it... but you can find some center badges on the internet for around 10£. :wink:

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Post by RichP » Wed 27 Feb, 2013 23:46

such a nice colour. i often wonder what was going through the mind of the people who buy a brand new car in a "less-than-desirable" colour but this person had good taste 8-)
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Post by Southernboy » Thu 28 Feb, 2013 05:16

V nice car....happy motoring!
Just an observation....I recall my Dad having a few Brit cars and always complaining about oil leaks....having a look at your pic of the steering rod, it occurred to me that perhaps the "old" car builders weren't so dumb after all...with the weather you guys have, it's probably desireable to have a slight leak here and there to keep things from getting rusty. When I look under my car, all I see is the original black coating on all those bits...clean, dry, untouched by anything but a fine film of dust....it would drive me nuts if I saw all that rusty stuff.
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Post by Mor61e » Thu 28 Feb, 2013 18:46

freck99 wrote: Welcome to the forum too Mor61e :D

Steve
Thanks Steve!
amancuso wrote:Very nice find!
I agree :P
dallantan wrote:Best colour....



.....other than Black ;)
Haha I could never own a black car, too much hard work :shock:
Pierrick wrote:Nice car. Love the colour!

I have the same gear knob and the center badge is in bad condition as well (end a bit of the chrome has gone!)... but not as bad as yours!! What happend there!!!

If you change the whole gear knob I would be interested to buy it... but you can find some center badges on the internet for around 10£. :wink:
Thanks bud, the chrome on mine is wearing as well so not sure you'd still want it :lol:
RichP wrote:such a nice colour. i often wonder what was going through the mind of the people who buy a brand new car in a "less-than-desirable" colour but this person had good taste 8-)
I can definately see why someone would spec up a new car in an odd colour combo but in this case i'm glad they went for the blue and beige 8-)
Southernboy wrote:V nice car....happy motoring!
Just an observation....I recall my Dad having a few Brit cars and always complaining about oil leaks....having a look at your pic of the steering rod, it occurred to me that perhaps the "old" car builders weren't so dumb after all...with the weather you guys have, it's probably desireable to have a slight leak here and there to keep things from getting rusty. When I look under my car, all I see is the original black coating on all those bits...clean, dry, untouched by anything but a fine film of dust....it would drive me nuts if I saw all that rusty stuff.
Yeh the UK climate isn't good to cars :| It's not a big deal in the scheme of things though :)


Picking up a pair of steering arms tomorrow to fit saturday 8-)
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Post by Mor61e » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 00:24

...2 years later :lol:

Absolutely loved owning the Z3 for the past couple of years and can't see myself selling it anytime soon :)

Done a few things over that time including a full service and gearbox oil change. Also...

New trackrods:

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New gearknob

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New badge

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3 stage polish:

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Like how the lights highlight the shape in this pic:

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Post by Mor61e » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 00:41

A bit too much suspension travel for my liking :shock::

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So I fitted some coilovers:

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The wheels needed a refurb anyway so I thought I'd try them black:

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Ran around like that for a while until the rear tyres needed replacing, and then while on a trawl through ebay, came across some Style 32s which were quickly snapped up:

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They do fit quite nicely although could do with 10mm spacers on the rear. I'm not a fan of spacers at all though so might not ever do it :?

And finished off with a subtle front splitter:

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Planning on a new roof at some point as the current one is very worn. Probably going to go Beige to match the interior :P
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Post by Dino D » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 08:49

Looks very nice.
Which splitter is that? Looks a flexible type?

And what part of the country are you in that let's you run the car that low, I've raised mine a bit now as our council has gotten speed hump crazy - the replaced those rubber square type humps with cheap copies made of Tarmac but made then even higher making and now a solid lump instead of rubber!

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Post by Mor61e » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 10:00

Dino D wrote:Looks very nice.
Which splitter is that? Looks a flexible type?

And what part of the country are you in that let's you run the car that low, I've raised mine a bit now as our council has gotten speed hump crazy - the replaced those rubber square type humps with cheap copies made of Tarmac but made then even higher making and now a solid lump instead of rubber!
Thanks, It's from an old Megane and is made from very stiff rubber, enough to protect the bumper but also flex backwards if it absolutely has to :)

Those bumps that sit in the middle of 1 lane are a nightmare so I tend to avoid them, full length ones are ok
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Post by bentley-boy » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 11:40

Hi, Looking good. Can I ask what you did with your old 5 spoke alloys as I would like to get a set of those for ease of cleaning purposes. I think the beige interior is a nice alternative to the usual black.
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Post by Mor61e » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 17:13

bentley-boy wrote:Hi, Looking good. Can I ask what you did with your old 5 spoke alloys as I would like to get a set of those for ease of cleaning purposes. I think the beige interior is a nice alternative to the usual black.
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Thanks, I still have the 5 spokes and am keeping them as spares I'm afraid

They are very very easy to clean so I can understand why you'd want some :P
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Post by Mugs » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 18:53

can i ask what model the style 32s are from?
i have 32s on mine but i am looking for wide rears like you have.
are they 7 series by any chance?

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Post by Mor61e » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 19:08

Mugs wrote:can i ask what model the style 32s are from?
i have 32s on mine but i am looking for wide rears like you have.
are they 7 series by any chance?
They're 17x8 and 9 from an E39 5-series, they have a slightly bigger centre bore so need spigot rings

What are yours from if they're not staggered?
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Post by Mugs » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 20:08

Mor61e wrote:
Mugs wrote:can i ask what model the style 32s are from?
i have 32s on mine but i am looking for wide rears like you have.
are they 7 series by any chance?
They're 17x8 and 9 from an E39 5-series, they have a slightly bigger centre bore so need spigot rings

What are yours from if they're not staggered?
mine is a 1.9 but i have done a wide rear arch conversion so they are all 7.5 x 17.
i am running 20mm spacers on the rear but i still need something wider.
where did you get the spigot rings from as i want to run these E39s on mine?

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Post by Mor61e » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 20:38

Mugs wrote:
Mor61e wrote:
Mugs wrote:can i ask what model the style 32s are from?
i have 32s on mine but i am looking for wide rears like you have.
are they 7 series by any chance?
They're 17x8 and 9 from an E39 5-series, they have a slightly bigger centre bore so need spigot rings

What are yours from if they're not staggered?
mine is a 1.9 but i have done a wide rear arch conversion so they are all 7.5 x 17.
i am running 20mm spacers on the rear but i still need something wider.
where did you get the spigot rings from as i want to run these E39s on mine?
Spigot rings from eBay, they're only about a fiver :wink: I can't remember off the top of my head what size they need to be but they are very thin, under 2mm total width I think

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Post by g8jka » Mon 06 Apr, 2015 21:13

Some smart mods you have done there, that's on nice looking zed :thumb:
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Post by Mor61e » Tue 07 Apr, 2015 00:04

g8jka wrote:Some smart mods you have done there, that's on nice looking zed :thumb:
Thanks very much :cheers
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Post by Mor61e » Tue 07 Apr, 2015 00:07

Just a few more pictures:

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Post by Mugs » Wed 08 Apr, 2015 21:17

i forgot to ask......what size tyres are you running on the 32s?
also, do you know the offset of the fronts as the ones i have found are ET20 and 8" wide but i thought they would stick out of the arches?
yours look to be flush with the edge of the arch.

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Post by cosmosblack » Wed 08 Apr, 2015 22:18

Hi what coilovers did you fit??

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Hi what coilovers did you fit??

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Post by Mor61e » Thu 09 Apr, 2015 19:11

Mugs wrote:i forgot to ask......what size tyres are you running on the 32s?
also, do you know the offset of the fronts as the ones i have found are ET20 and 8" wide but i thought they would stick out of the arches?
yours look to be flush with the edge of the arch.
195/40 on the front and 205/40 on the rear

I can't remember the offset but i'd imagine they only came in one fitment for the E39
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Post by Mor61e » Thu 09 Apr, 2015 19:14

cosmosblack wrote:Hi what coilovers did you fit??
Just cheap ones, they're a bit bouncy which is why I plan to upgrade to BCs at some point :-P
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Post by cosmosblack » Fri 10 Apr, 2015 10:25

it looks like nice though how it stands where they cheaps ones from ebay? i cant decide if to go lowering springs and showks or coilovers

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Post by Mor61e » Fri 10 Apr, 2015 16:44

cosmosblack wrote:it looks like nice though how it stands where they cheaps ones from ebay? i cant decide if to go lowering springs and showks or coilovers
Yeh you can get them from eBay, I got them from a group buy myself

If you want it to be relatively comfortable then I'd say shocks and springs or pay extra for some decent coilovers :wink:
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Post by Dino D » Fri 10 Apr, 2015 23:05

Mor61e wrote:
cosmosblack wrote:Hi what coilovers did you fit??
Just cheap ones, they're a bit bouncy which is why I plan to upgrade to BCs at some point :-P
I've just done this.
Cheap coilovers are not worth it.
The BCs were relatively cheap at under 700 from Corby Motorsports but miles ahead of the similar price FK Silverlines I had before and they offer much more adjustment.

Coupled with new bushes all around I have to say I have never driven a Z so eager and confident like mines drives now (and it's still to go in for full corner weighting).
Really engaging drive now on back roads and motorways.

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Post by Mugs » Fri 10 Apr, 2015 23:05

Mor61e wrote:
Mugs wrote:i forgot to ask......what size tyres are you running on the 32s?
also, do you know the offset of the fronts as the ones i have found are ET20 and 8" wide but i thought they would stick out of the arches?
yours look to be flush with the edge of the arch.
195/40 on the front and 205/40 on the rear

I can't remember the offset but i'd imagine they only came in one fitment for the E39
40 series on 17s? doesn't that mess up the speedo reading due to the change in the rolling radius as the standard is 225 45 17?

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Post by Mor61e » Sat 11 Apr, 2015 21:05

Mugs wrote:
Mor61e wrote:
Mugs wrote:i forgot to ask......what size tyres are you running on the 32s?
also, do you know the offset of the fronts as the ones i have found are ET20 and 8" wide but i thought they would stick out of the arches?
yours look to be flush with the edge of the arch.
195/40 on the front and 205/40 on the rear

I can't remember the offset but i'd imagine they only came in one fitment for the E39
40 series on 17s? doesn't that mess up the speedo reading due to the change in the rolling radius as the standard is 225 45 17?
Maybe a little but it's not the end of the world is it :)

The difference in size:

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Post by Mor61e » Sat 11 Apr, 2015 21:10

Dino D wrote:
Mor61e wrote:
cosmosblack wrote:Hi what coilovers did you fit??
Just cheap ones, they're a bit bouncy which is why I plan to upgrade to BCs at some point :-P
I've just done this.
Cheap coilovers are not worth it.
The BCs were relatively cheap at under 700 from Corby Motorsports but miles ahead of the similar price FK Silverlines I had before and they offer much more adjustment.

Coupled with new bushes all around I have to say I have never driven a Z so eager and confident like mines drives now (and it's still to go in for full corner weighting).
Really engaging drive now on back roads and motorways.
Thanks Dino, that's good to know :cheers

I had BCs on my Integra before and they really are brilliant coilovers!
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Mor61e
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  Z3 roadster 2.8

Re: Mor61e's Topaz Blue 2.8 Z3 blog

Post by Mor61e » Sun 24 May, 2015 21:53

Refurbed my wheels:

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And mirror base:

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Wax on:

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Wax off:

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Also bought some Gtechniq I1 which i'll be applying on Tuesday so will post up the results from that later 8-)
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Mor61e
Joined: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 20:11
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  Z3 roadster 2.8

Re: Mor61e's Topaz Blue 2.8 Z3 blog

Post by Mor61e » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 10:38

The Z was long overdue a tidy up so I booked a week off to prep it up and have it painted

Here's some before pictures so you don't think I'm mental and re-spraying it for no reason :D

Every panel needed doing for one reason or another

Bonnet:

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Doors were peppered with car park dents and a bit of lacquer flake:

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Blue paint on the rear bumper:

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1/4 panels:

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Rusty sills:

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Mor61e
Joined: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 20:11
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  Z3 roadster 2.8

Re: Mor61e's Topaz Blue 2.8 Z3 blog

Post by Mor61e » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 10:54

Stripped it down:

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Pre-bodged rear exhaust hanger:

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After taking the sills off they were much worse than I expected :shock:

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Fortunately the inner sills have held up ok so I ground the surface rust out and undersealed them:

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Bought some new sills and exhaust hanger:

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Mor61e
Joined: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 20:11
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  Z3 roadster 2.8

Re: Mor61e's Topaz Blue 2.8 Z3 blog

Post by Mor61e » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 11:03

The inner wings and 1/4s were looking a bit bare and I've seen the state they can get in on other Z3s so I anti-stonechipped them, as well as the inside and underside of the new sills:

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Muuuch prep work later:

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Primer time:

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Mor61e
Joined: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 20:11
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  Z3 roadster 2.8

Re: Mor61e's Topaz Blue 2.8 Z3 blog

Post by Mor61e » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 11:10

Drilled the new exhaust bracket in a couple more places and plug welded it to the rear panel which should hold it for life this time, then sealed over the top:

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And then muuuuch more prep work later:

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It's paint time :D
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Mor61e
Joined: Mon 21 Jan, 2013 20:11
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  Z3 roadster 2.8

Re: Mor61e's Topaz Blue 2.8 Z3 blog

Post by Mor61e » Mon 17 Aug, 2015 11:17

Base:

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And lacquered :D :

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The man with the painting skills 8-)

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Cleaned up the other old parts:

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And bought a few new ones:

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