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It took longer to collect the car than I thought! Picked it up on Saturday only - here are two shots showing the new 'zorst:Holland Harry wrote:Looking forward to yours pics on Thursday.
If the look is like Jet's exhaust you made the right choice
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Cheers. Yes, it sounds pretty good I think (not quite as good as the Lorenz did with a large hole in it, but still pretty fine!) - ask Green Genie - he heard it on Saturday.
Yes, I think it looks better than the Lorenz too. I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm convinced!
I just now need:
(1) some clear rear lights; and
(2) to perhaps lose that extremely retro aerial!
Yes, I think it looks better than the Lorenz too. I wasn't sure at first, but now I'm convinced!
I just now need:
(1) some clear rear lights; and
(2) to perhaps lose that extremely retro aerial!
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The Z1 is not in Russia. I have a house in London and keep the Z1 there. The radio is modern - an Alpine headunit with integrated iPod functionality since there is no space for storing CDs in a Z1!Holland Harry wrote:Now I see your point! It would look indeed much better without the aerial.
Any ideas on how to do it without losing your reception in the darker parts of Russia.
What kind of radio do you have in the Zed? Extremly retro or top modern?
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The White Rear Light
The White Rear Light..
I known the small production from Michael is already sold out, but, if we find 10 People who wants have the White Rear Light, maybe
we can talk to the company to produce its again.
So Please tell me if someone is intrested, I'm asking to french owners and I'm waiting for your feedback...
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Bruno
I known the small production from Michael is already sold out, but, if we find 10 People who wants have the White Rear Light, maybe
we can talk to the company to produce its again.
So Please tell me if someone is intrested, I'm asking to french owners and I'm waiting for your feedback...
Best Regards
Bruno
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I was trying really hard to keep mine 100% original but I'm very tempted. Oh sod it - go on then, If they are being remade, put me down for a set, and what about a front set while were at it.
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Michael is staying silent, I dont blame him
Good luck in convincing him, he went through alot of emotional and financial pain to convert these lights, subsequently being banned from repeating this project by his wife unfortunately.
Dont forget the cost associated with this, the €1 = £1, so they will not be cheap and you have to send your expensive rear lights to the maker to be converted, or buy a new set of lights from BMW and send them away, hoping they dont get damaged, as some unlucky guy found out. And you have to take responsibility for everyone and pray nothing goes wrong, or you will have some very pissed off Z1 owners across europe.
Dont mean to be the pessimist, but its not that simple. Saying that, if a viable solution came up, I would be interested, as I have a spare set of rear lights I bought cheap off ebay
Good luck in convincing him, he went through alot of emotional and financial pain to convert these lights, subsequently being banned from repeating this project by his wife unfortunately.
Dont forget the cost associated with this, the €1 = £1, so they will not be cheap and you have to send your expensive rear lights to the maker to be converted, or buy a new set of lights from BMW and send them away, hoping they dont get damaged, as some unlucky guy found out. And you have to take responsibility for everyone and pray nothing goes wrong, or you will have some very pissed off Z1 owners across europe.
Dont mean to be the pessimist, but its not that simple. Saying that, if a viable solution came up, I would be interested, as I have a spare set of rear lights I bought cheap off ebay
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I really have to backup Jet's story on this one. The whole thing was not a walk in the park. Four sets were damaged on their way back to the owners. At the end Michael didn't get all his costs back. And had apart from the stress also the financial pain to bare. No very cool indeed.Jet wrote:Michael is staying silent, I dont blame him
Good luck in convincing him, he went through alot of emotional and financial pain to convert these lights, subsequently being banned from repeating this project by his wife unfortunately.
Dont forget the cost associated with this, the €1 = £1, so they will not be cheap and you have to send your expensive rear lights to the maker to be converted, or buy a new set of lights from BMW and send them away, hoping they dont get damaged, as some unlucky guy found out. And you have to take responsibility for everyone and pray nothing goes wrong, or you will have some very pissed off Z1 owners across europe.
Dont mean to be the pessimist, but its not that simple. Saying that, if a viable solution came up, I would be interested, as I have a spare set of rear lights I bought cheap off ebay
Also the second set if made will cost a lot more than the first set because the manufaturer also did not get al his costs paid. So if made the second set will cost you at least € 1500,- to € 1700,- including a new set of rearlights.
But once more for the non believers.
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White Rear Lights
Yes of course 1500 Euros, it's quite expensive !!
So someone esle has a better idea ???
Can we make it by ourself ???
Maybe we can find another company to produce its again ???
Someone can try to contact Michael ???
Someone known how this company made that ???
Whitch process can we used to make the same White Rear Lights ???
Bye
Bruno
So someone esle has a better idea ???
Can we make it by ourself ???
Maybe we can find another company to produce its again ???
Someone can try to contact Michael ???
Someone known how this company made that ???
Whitch process can we used to make the same White Rear Lights ???
Bye
Bruno
It is, except the orange part was cut and removed by lasers (I believe) and the new lens sealed and fitted to the unit by the company.Mitsuhiko wrote:Is that a lens replacement for the original tail?
May be I can do it by myself if I will make a copy of orenge area of the lens....
Senna started a thread about getting these lens made in China so we could fit them ourselves, but not heard anything on that for some time.
Do you have the means to copy this Mitsu in the same colour and plastic? Might be an idea to copy the entire top section including the reverse section, as it will be easier to cut a straight line across, rather than angles?
I think original plastic is acrylic material.Jet wrote: Do you have the means to copy this Mitsu in the same colour and plastic? Might be an idea to copy the entire top section including the reverse section, as it will be easier to cut a straight line across, rather than angles?
If I will make a copy, it will be clear epoxy resin.
Including the reverse section is more difficult to make a copy,
We need a vaccum chamber if size will be big.
Anyway I will try it using my broken left tail in the junk yard... may be in near future
White Rear Lights
I have fex parts from Z1* and I still have 2 others Rear Lights but they're broken as you can see on this photo so are you interested ??
Please tell me if you can open my picture...
I think they don't have any value so maybe we can use its to make a copy ??
What do you think about that ??
PS : Now my Front Lights are white, I removed varnish, but now I just have to find an Orange bulb and that will be fine !!
But we have to find a solution to have some White Rear Lights.....
*you can see my parts list on another Item
Bye Bye
Bruno
Please tell me if you can open my picture...
I think they don't have any value so maybe we can use its to make a copy ??
What do you think about that ??
PS : Now my Front Lights are white, I removed varnish, but now I just have to find an Orange bulb and that will be fine !!
But we have to find a solution to have some White Rear Lights.....
*you can see my parts list on another Item
Bye Bye
Bruno
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Yes for sure probably it's more easier and quite cheaper !! and yes it's great your Z1 is very nice like this !!
But look at the photos with "White Rear Lights" it's amazing !!!
Bye
Bruno
But look at the photos with "White Rear Lights" it's amazing !!!
Bye
Bruno
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I would like the same White Rearlights and I believe I am not alone...
Bye
Bruno
Bye
Bruno
White Rearlights
Please the "White Rearlights"
Not that !!
Not that !!
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White Rearlights
Hi guys !!
If we can order a new edition of White Rearlights, I'll be there to bring its No problem for sure !!!
I don't want to receive by Fedex or DHL and so on....
Anyway have you seen my broken set we can use it no ???
And please for all Z1 owners who make fun of me I'll be back with my White Rearlights edition too !!!...
So Wait and see !! Plesase everybody like me help me !!!
Bye
Bruno
If we can order a new edition of White Rearlights, I'll be there to bring its No problem for sure !!!
I don't want to receive by Fedex or DHL and so on....
Anyway have you seen my broken set we can use it no ???
And please for all Z1 owners who make fun of me I'll be back with my White Rearlights edition too !!!...
So Wait and see !! Plesase everybody like me help me !!!
Bye
Bruno
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Well Gents,
I did some research together with Stoertie on a second edition White Rearlights. The prices are even more horrible than I thought! A conversion of the rearlights will cost for the second edition € 1.862,35 including two rearlights without the costs Stoertie hass to make to let it al happen. Also there are no transport/shipping costs includeed. So at the end I will cost probably € 1.500,- if you convert your old lights and around € 2.100,- for al new White Rearlights. This is without a garanty on the lights and the possible transport damage to the lights.
Also we can only make these prices when there are atleast 15 people joining in. From experience with the first edition this will be a big problem. Last time I had to order two sets to make it all happen. The second set took me almost a year to sell for the price I paid. Everybody wants them but when the price is offer 95% backs off. Benslick was and is this lucky bastard who got them!!!!! He was the only one who was willling to paid my nett price. And I really put some effort in ti to get them sold in Germany or Holland.
So we decided that we will not make a second set of White Edition rearlights! So there will be only 17 Z1's who have this beautiful rearlights worldwide and it will probably stay this way. Sorry Guys!!
I did some research together with Stoertie on a second edition White Rearlights. The prices are even more horrible than I thought! A conversion of the rearlights will cost for the second edition € 1.862,35 including two rearlights without the costs Stoertie hass to make to let it al happen. Also there are no transport/shipping costs includeed. So at the end I will cost probably € 1.500,- if you convert your old lights and around € 2.100,- for al new White Rearlights. This is without a garanty on the lights and the possible transport damage to the lights.
Also we can only make these prices when there are atleast 15 people joining in. From experience with the first edition this will be a big problem. Last time I had to order two sets to make it all happen. The second set took me almost a year to sell for the price I paid. Everybody wants them but when the price is offer 95% backs off. Benslick was and is this lucky bastard who got them!!!!! He was the only one who was willling to paid my nett price. And I really put some effort in ti to get them sold in Germany or Holland.
So we decided that we will not make a second set of White Edition rearlights! So there will be only 17 Z1's who have this beautiful rearlights worldwide and it will probably stay this way. Sorry Guys!!
Bummer... Could someone do a writeup on how the work was done so that we can look for another source...maybe here in the US or east Asia?
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I have been toying with the idea of spray-tinting the rears half-dark, Mk2 Golf GTI 16v-style, but I remain to be convinced that it will look good.
The ones in the picture above look good, but not as good as the white ones.
I have no expertise in these matters, but I'm amazed it costs that much, especially since the moulds must now exist?
The ones in the picture above look good, but not as good as the white ones.
I have no expertise in these matters, but I'm amazed it costs that much, especially since the moulds must now exist?
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The manufacturing costs of producing such a small number is the killer, they normally produce hundreds at a time, not 15, so costs will triple in size.RacingTeatray wrote: I have no expertise in these matters, but I'm amazed it costs that much, especially since the moulds must now exist?
And they wont handover their plans and moulds to us either without a hefty charge to cover future losses and possibly the copyright. Add to that the value of the ££, compared with what it was when we bought them, shipping, insurance, liability, and you see where this is heading.
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Hi RT,RacingTeatray wrote:I have been toying with the idea of spray-tinting the rears half-dark, Mk2 Golf GTI 16v-style, but I remain to be convinced that it will look good.
The ones in the picture above look good, but not as good as the white ones.
I have no expertise in these matters, but I'm amazed it costs that much, especially since the moulds must now exist?
The moulds don't exist anymore because they are sillicon moulds. These sillicon moulds can be used around 20th times than they are trown away because they don't hold any longer. So if you make a next edition White Rearlightsyou have to make two new moulds which again can only produce around 20 good lenses. Also the making of the moulds is the most expensive part of the whole operation.