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V12 Z1 !!!!

Post by senna » Sat 16 Jul, 2011 23:55

Got this

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Got this:

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Let's give it a go
Last edited by senna on Sun 17 Jul, 2011 13:42, edited 1 time in total.
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Post by Badman gee » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 07:03

now that will be amazing, cant wait to see the progress on this.

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Post by Holland Harry » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 11:39

Where is the second pic mate?

I assume you bought yet an other Z1 to violate and dismember. :shock:

But I have to say I can't wait to see the end result of this transformation.

Cheers for sharing this info,

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Post by senna » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 13:43

Holland Harry wrote:Where is the second pic mate?

I assume you bought yet an other Z1 to violate and dismember. :shock:

But I have to say I can't wait to see the end result of this transformation.

Cheers for sharing this info,

HH
Hi Harry,

Yes I am about to violate yet another precious Z :D

The size difference is amazing.
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Post by apollo » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 13:48

What happened to my V10?? B*stard

Which foolish unfortunate will buy a V12 Z1, i thought all those BMW V12 went into kit cars!!!!!!!!

Will it have an auto box just to give it that lovely whinning noise as you accelerate :head:
My Z1 is too FAST and my Gallardo is too SLOW

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Post by TrickyZ1 » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 13:54

Wow :shock:

Good luck with this project senna, you like a challenge don't you! 8-)
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Post by BBZ149 » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 15:09

G, that will be a true awesome beast! 8-) Senna do you live in that caravan, or is it a knocking shop lol :D
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Post by shantybeater » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 22:23

Epic....
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Post by Robert T » Sun 17 Jul, 2011 22:48

How about this one for your next project, Senna?

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That's a 46.5 litre BMW aero-engine. :D

Good luck with the V12 - I bet that will sound awesome. :thumb:

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Post by senna » Mon 18 Jul, 2011 15:48

Robert T wrote:How about this one for your next project, Senna?

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That's a 46.5 litre BMW aero-engine. :D

Good luck with the V12 - I bet that will sound awesome. :thumb:

Cheers R.
Now that is AWESOME!

Once Apollo stops his moaning I will get on with the V12 :D
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Post by pingu » Mon 18 Jul, 2011 19:44

The mere mention of Apollo and Senna in a big engine thread gets me thinking :shock: .

Could a Z1 take 1.5 million horsepower?

Senna's next power plant?...
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BTW, really looking forward to the V12 :D
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Post by benslick » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 01:36

Put it in mine!!! :D
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Post by spokey » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 07:41

There's mad, and then there's Senna!
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Post by Jet » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 10:37

Will this project also fall into your "Top Secret" category? You clearly have some interesting concepts that stir the imagination, its a shame you choose not to allow your fellow enthusiasts a glimpse, apart from a chosen few. Would have been interested to see your Z1M or V8 project, I find that more appealing. is there a purpose to this, or just prove it can be done? A V12 in a Z1 just seems .....overkill, something you do for drag racing perhaps?

But thats coming from a bloke who knows nothing about mechanical automotive engineering mind you. :dunce:

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Post by senna » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 17:39

pingu wrote:The mere mention of Apollo and Senna in a big engine thread gets me thinking :shock: .

Could a Z1 take 1.5 million horsepower?

Senna's next power plant?...
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BTW, really looking forward to the V12 :D
Hoping to finish a V10 soon.

Really want to put an F1 engine in one...... honestly
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Post by senna » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 17:44

Jetski wrote:Will this project also fall into your "Top Secret" category? You clearly have some interesting concepts that stir the imagination, its a shame you choose not to allow your fellow enthusiasts a glimpse, apart from a chosen few. Would have been interested to see your Z1M or V8 project, I find that more appealing. is there a purpose to this, or just prove it can be done? A V12 in a Z1 just seems .....overkill, something you do for drag racing perhaps?

But thats coming from a bloke who knows nothing about mechanical automotive engineering mind you. :dunce:
Oh Jamal.....

I would love to give all the ideas out but we would end up with clones wouldn't we :wink:
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Post by senna » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 17:52

benslick wrote:Put it in mine!!! :D
Give me a call!

I have a nice S54/6 speed fly by wire if you want?
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Post by benslick » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 18:02

Once I've paid my Mate back you got a deal :D
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Post by Jet » Tue 19 Jul, 2011 23:53

senna wrote:
Jetski wrote:Will this project also fall into your "Top Secret" category? You clearly have some interesting concepts that stir the imagination, its a shame you choose not to allow your fellow enthusiasts a glimpse, apart from a chosen few. Would have been interested to see your Z1M or V8 project, I find that more appealing. is there a purpose to this, or just prove it can be done? A V12 in a Z1 just seems .....overkill, something you do for drag racing perhaps?

But thats coming from a bloke who knows nothing about mechanical automotive engineering mind you. :dunce:
Oh Jamal.....

I would love to give all the ideas out but we would end up with clones wouldn't we :wink:
Surely the cynical could say the same about you? Your not the first to put an M3/M5 engine in a Z1 (or Hartge wheels for that matter :wink:)
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Post by benslick » Wed 20 Jul, 2011 00:58

Doctors are not allowed to smoke camberwell carrots! :D

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Post by BBZ149 » Wed 20 Jul, 2011 13:25

Jetski wrote:Will this project also fall into your "Top Secret" category? You clearly have some interesting concepts that stir the imagination, its a shame you choose not to allow your fellow enthusiasts a glimpse, apart from a chosen few. Would have been interested to see your Z1M or V8 project, I find that more appealing. is there a purpose to this, or just prove it can be done? A V12 in a Z1 just seems .....overkill, something you do for drag racing perhaps?

But thats coming from a bloke who knows nothing about mechanical automotive engineering mind you. :dunce:
I think personally think Erwin’s conversion will be adequate for most who want a big engine and I’m sure he will fully document for fellow members ever wanting to do the conversion!
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Post by senna » Wed 20 Jul, 2011 13:59

Jetski wrote:
senna wrote:
Jetski wrote:Will this project also fall into your "Top Secret" category? You clearly have some interesting concepts that stir the imagination, its a shame you choose not to allow your fellow enthusiasts a glimpse, apart from a chosen few. Would have been interested to see your Z1M or V8 project, I find that more appealing. is there a purpose to this, or just prove it can be done? A V12 in a Z1 just seems .....overkill, something you do for drag racing perhaps?

But thats coming from a bloke who knows nothing about mechanical automotive engineering mind you. :dunce:
Oh Jamal.....

I would love to give all the ideas out but we would end up with clones wouldn't we :wink:
Surely the cynical could say the same about you? Your not the first to put an M3/M5 engine in a Z1 (or Hartge wheels for that matter :wink:)
Lighten up Chris, what you need is a spliff.
Sorry mate I don't do drugs.
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Post by Geoff H » Wed 20 Jul, 2011 14:49

benslick wrote:camberwell carrots!
First time I've heard that phrase and I was born in Camberwell
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Post by Jet » Wed 20 Jul, 2011 16:14

senna wrote:
Jetski wrote:
senna wrote: Oh Jamal.....

I would love to give all the ideas out but we would end up with clones wouldn't we :wink:
Surely the cynical could say the same about you? Your not the first to put an M3/M5 engine in a Z1 (or Hartge wheels for that matter :wink:)
Lighten up Chris, what you need is a spliff.
Sorry mate I don't do drugs.
Sure you do, your a Doctor :shock:

Now when we going to see something like a RHD conversion for a change?

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Post by apollo » Sat 23 Jul, 2011 22:01

And this thread seemed to start well :bawl:
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Post by Guest » Sun 24 Jul, 2011 19:19

Guys, no need to smoke much if we can get a kick out of an ingenious enginge conversion. Besides, smoking would only slow us down :lol: :shock: :D :lol: or at least slow down the perceived speed.

V12: if you have a convincing concept about how it can be done... But I fear the car would be undrivable, not least because nothing has been designed for... :?:
... isn't the chassis too wabbly, the entire setup too light-weight, an increase in weight and stabilisation necessary all around?

Would be cool to hear what you think, how you solved the issues in the M or V10 conversions and what you plan this time round. 8-)

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Post by senna » Sun 24 Jul, 2011 19:39

mika_bxl wrote:Guys, no need to smoke much if we can get a kick out of an ingenious enginge conversion. Besides, smoking would only slow us down :lol: :shock: :D :lol: or at least slow down the perceived speed.

V12: if you have a convincing concept about how it can be done... But I fear the car would be undrivable, not least because nothing has been designed for... :?:
... isn't the chassis too wabbly, the entire setup too light-weight, an increase in weight and stabilisation necessary all around?

Would be cool to hear what you think, how you solved the issues in the M or V10 conversions and what you plan this time round. 8-)
I have no idea yet just that I want to use the shells I have lying around for something, and the V12 was given to me :D

The Z1 works well with well with an S62 as all the other people that have done it before will testify.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2nZohMZLU0

I can't see there being any major issues with either the V10 or the V12 (or the V8) despite it not being done before I am sure it is easy enough.

Time is the biggest issue

My main aim is to make a "track hack" nothing refined, with a roll cage, side exhausts, alloy dash.
But you never know... It may end up as a spotless OEM example.

Watch this space
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Re: V12 Z1 !!!!

Post by Bruno » Thu 22 Sep, 2016 16:55

Hi,

I'd like to swap my powertrain (engine + gearbox) by a newest one with Motorsport engine + automatic gearbox.
Please someone could help me on this project.
Please don't talk about SMG gearbox, that is the worth ever gearbox !!
There is the DKG gearbox with dual clutch transmission.

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Post by Gazza » Thu 22 Sep, 2016 19:23

Nothing wrong with SMG, I have one in my M3 CSL, I agree it is old technology but so is the Z1
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Re: V12 Z1 !!!!

Post by Bruno » Thu 22 Sep, 2016 21:24

Hi,

I think you're right, because the size of SMG gearbox is quite good, but also it is an old technology !!
But to be acceptable, the shifting must be made without any interruption in torque and no jolting !!
And on your M3 CSL with SMG II, you are a lucky man, because you don't have the first version of SMG, fortunately for you !!...

No I think we can fit on another gearbox more efficient and with the latest technologies, I hope so...
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Re: V12 Z1 !!!!

Post by Bruno » Wed 02 Nov, 2016 17:23

Hi everyone,

Regarding Z1 "M" powered by automatic gearbox, a thing is true, I am not to do anything just by myself, I need of your help (members) !!
Many thanks for your answers.
But unfortunately, I think the members like "Senna" or "Appollo" who have fitted on their own Z1 some M3, V8 or V12, they are not too active on the website !!
I sent some messages but any answer, but they have all of skills, knowledges and background....
So I keep asking them, but I think I should postpone my big project maybe... :head:

PS :
I changed my cellphone a long time ago, so I lost the Senna's phone number !! :head:

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