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Post by shaikhzeep » Mon 15 Jul, 2013 22:33

Good day gentelmen,

I just bought BMW Z1 1989 gray color.I need to paint the car and i am looking for different color.Any recommendation of color that fit this car?

Second, i read that body shell can be remove all and it is made of plastic.Which is good for the painter :):) :shock: .But i know there are clips or body panels holders made of rubber.Any one knows where to buy full kit? or to find them?

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Post by Jet » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 09:15

Shaik,

Good choice and welcome to the forum, are you in Saudi Arabia?
Please post some pictures of the car, gray is an unusual choice, what colour is the interior?

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Post by Gazza » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:02

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Post by shaikhzeep » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 10:21

Good day Gazza and Jet,

Thank you for welcoming me in this forum.

Yes i am located in Saudi Arabia.I like unique cars and i was looking for this Z1 from long time.I did not saw these cars in Saudi.I saw this one with a guy and idle for long time in his garage.Will the car need a lot of work.It runs but need engine tuning.And i said need paint.Plus i did not like the small wheels so i may change them to BBS.I need your help guys from technical issues to spare parts.

I will take pictures today.The interior color is black but the seats have some orange over red colors.Anyway, you will see the pictures.

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Post by shaikhzeep » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 13:13

Good day Gazza,

here are some pictures of the car.

The car number is AL00390.

The seats are recaros.

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Post by Jet » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 14:47

Shaik,

Have the panels just been incorrectly fitted? There is a discussion on here somewhere about panel fitting, I seem to remember they must be done in a particular order, and you can still buy the panel clips from BMW.

Interesting colour, is it a standard Z1 apart from the Recaros?

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Post by Green Genie » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 15:25

The car was originally green see here:

http://www.bmw-z1.com/z1/cgi-bin/Z1decode-e.cgi

As Jet says the panel gaps at the front nose cone don't look correct and need some adjustment, does the car have air con? I may be wrong but I believe some in Saudi Arabia did get this (special order) if I'm wrong I'm sure others will be on to correct me.

Interesting project for you have you decided on what colour to spray the car yet?
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Post by shaikhzeep » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 16:01

Ofcourse i wont go with green and i do not like the gray color. :cry:

I might go with different colors from Z1 colors list.The car is small in size and looking for color to make it bigger and lovely.Not yet decided.Of course i will remove all body panels and paint them when i install them back for sure will do panel adjustments.

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Post by Racing Tortoise » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 16:54

I like that colour.

The standard colours are:

Primeval Green (a dark metallic shade);
Dream Black (metallic, looks very dark blue/green in sunlight);
Top red (non-metallic);
Fun yellow (non-metallic custard colour);
Pure Blue (a bright metallic blue not dissimilar to Estoril Blue); and
Magic Violet (a rather bright metallic pink/purple colour).

If I was respraying, I'd be tempted to go for Interlagos Blue.
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Post by Green Genie » Tue 16 Jul, 2013 21:25

shaikhzeep wrote:Ofcourse i wont go with green and i do not like the gray color. :cry:

I might go with different colors from Z1 colors list.
What about this?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=26883&p=251988&hili ... on#p251988
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Post by shaikhzeep » Wed 17 Jul, 2013 00:23

To Green Genie ,

Very nice magic color.But i am classic guy and i like straight forward colors.

What about these colors below?

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So which one you like most?

Vote guys.

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Post by Green Genie » Wed 17 Jul, 2013 09:51

Of those three colours I'd go with the blue :thumb:
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Post by shaikhzeep » Wed 17 Jul, 2013 11:20

Good day Green Genie,

I agree with you totally.The blue color below is so nice and frech.Shiny and young color for lovely Z1.Now, we will look for the shiny chrome 18" wheels. :)


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Now , how we can get the same wheels on the VW.Can someone lead us. :rtm:

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Post by Jet » Wed 17 Jul, 2013 12:56

Are you sure? Some colours suit certain cars, same for wheels, I dont think they will suit the Z1, but if thats what you want.
You will need hub adapters from 5x100 to 4x100, the CB of both cars are the same at 57.1 I believe, but the offset is different, the Beetle is PCD 30 - 45 I think, against PCD25 for the Z1, you must compensate for that with spacers. The later Z1 can take wider wheels at the rear up to 10", Erwin has them on his later car.

What wheels are they? Size? Offset? There are companies who can make you a set of wheels to fit, if they are split rims, you may just need the face and they build around it.

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Post by shaikhzeep » Wed 17 Jul, 2013 18:00

Good day Jet,

What you think of the color and the rims.I found the rims with 4x100.

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Thanks :shock:

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Post by Jet » Wed 17 Jul, 2013 22:52

shaikhzeep wrote:Good day Jet,

What you think of the color and the rims.I found the rims with 4x100.

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Thanks :shock:
Now your talking Shaik, I have them on my eBay watch list, that is a fantastic design, it has a delicious deep dish and the correct offset, you can get them staggered for the back with a polished lip. Not many better wheels than that, good choice.

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Post by shaikhzeep » Thu 18 Jul, 2013 00:32

Okay Jet as you are experts in the wheels above.

Can you provide me with the front wheels sizes and the rear wheels sizes plus the tire sizes for fron plus rear.I know you said that they are 4x100 and the wheels bore is about 57.1.

If you have the link to ebay where i buy them i will be thanking.

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Post by Jet » Thu 18 Jul, 2013 08:20

These are BBS LM if you can get them, extremely rare, but search for ESM 004, there is a company making them in 17s.

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Post by shaikhzeep » Thu 18 Jul, 2013 14:05

Good day Jet,

Is this is the one you are talking about?

http://esmwheels.com/access/index.php

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Post by Jet » Thu 18 Jul, 2013 15:11

Thats the ones, not sure you will get 18s though.

You sound like a man on a mission, but have you looked at all the options available in 4-stud? Before you decide, have a browse through the Z1 register top of this thread, and www. Z1Z1.de owner register, a host of cars to view with various wheels, give you some ideas.

Alternatively a hub conversion to 5-120, the options become limitless, much more recent BMW designs, original quality and wheels are cheaper, you can get 18s, splits, Hartge, AC Schnitzer, OZ Futura, Alpina, BBS LM.....

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Post by shaikhzeep » Thu 18 Jul, 2013 22:21

Hay Jet ignore the above link.

What about this one?
and which MM size should i take? :head:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/42DD-VW-Audi-4x ... 0a&vxp=mtr
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Post by Jet » Fri 19 Jul, 2013 11:36

That cant be right, the bolt pattern of the Z1 overlaps the 5x120, normally requiring 2 adapter sets to compensate. It pushes the wheel out changing the offset. The title says 4x100 but the picture shows a 5hole to 5hole adapter, I think the ad is wrong, maybe a 5x100 to 5x120....?

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Post by shaikhzeep » Fri 19 Jul, 2013 11:52

Jet, i sent him a message to confirm they are 4x100 to 5x120.

But what about MM should i ask? 20 or 25 or what?

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Post by Jet » Fri 19 Jul, 2013 12:55

Have a read of this.....

http://www.carparts-tuning.co.uk/Wheel- ... %20adapter

Bear in mind 2 adapters and big wheels has the potential to impact the handling.

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Post by shaikhzeep » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 17:15

Good day Jet,

Well we took the car to work shop for painting .We removed the body panels and what abig disaster miss :head: .The plastic fall aparts and we can not use again the panels again.

So now we need complete body panels.Well i saw this german guy who already made carbon fiber body panels like doors lower panels plus the hood and front fenders.I wish if he makes the whole body panels of carbon fiber and leave them on carbon fiber color.

Well carbon fiber body panel is an option.

I will take body plastic panels to plastic factory and see what happens.

Any ideas?

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Post by Jet » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 19:45

Shaik,

Unfortunately, sounds like its getting to that brittle stage, plastics are starting to show their age, repair seems to work with small cracks around the mounting points, but no idea about major repairs. When it gets this bad, new panels are probably the way to go. If you can, it has to be carbon fibre, its stronger, stiffer, lighter, copes very well with the heat and wont bend out of shape. Alternatively, your dealer should have new originals in stock.

Can you post some pictures of the problem?

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Post by shaikhzeep » Sun 23 Mar, 2014 18:26

Good day Jet,

Yes i agree with you.I should go complete with new panels.And i am looking for carbon fiber.Any idea where i can get them?Did someone convert his complete body to carbon fiber?

I will take some pictures and send it to you.

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Post by Jet » Sun 23 Mar, 2014 21:56

Shaik,

I believe the idea was to supply panels that were no longer available or have inherent design faults, but they have wings, bonnets and door skins in their catalog. A complete set of carbon panels would cost a small fortune to produce I would imagine. http://www.z1-online.de - speak to Michael.
This reminds me of my Ducati days, i remember at the time, there are different grades of carbon fibre, thickness, flexibility, thread, finish, depending on what you were going to do with it.

Andy Hallas is the man to explain this, but I remember untreated carbon was easier and cheaper to produce. If you really want the carbon look, paint the car black and have it carbon wrapped, but will it suit the car?

How did you get on with your wheels, did you change them?

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Post by shaikhzeep » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 18:27

Good day Jet,

Nice bikes you have.

Regarding the Z1 body panels.I ordered complete set of body panels for my car except the hood and the trunk cover.Well this will take the car for another ten years :) .Then i have some time to collect all body panels made of carbon fiber.

Regarding the wheels, i bought the 18" BBS wheels and not yet put them on car.

Regarding the color i decided to go with valencia orange.

Thanks Jet for your support.

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Post by TJS » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 20:32

BMW Valencia Orange !

An interesting choice, I think it will work with a Z1. It will certainly match your seats.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/new-vehicles ... ideos.html#

Personally, I would have chosen BMW Estoril Blue with a dark blue hood

I look forward to seeing the finished car

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Post by Jet » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 23:12

shaikhzeep wrote:Good day Jet,

Nice bikes you have.

Regarding the Z1 body panels.I ordered complete set of body panels for my car except the hood and the trunk cover.Well this will take the car for another ten years :) .Then i have some time to collect all body panels made of carbon fiber.

Regarding the wheels, i bought the 18" BBS wheels and not yet put them on car.

Regarding the color i decided to go with valencia orange.

Thanks Jet for your support.
Good decision, you have a fantastically unique car in very short supply where you are based, so you may as well take the plunge, new panels will last a very long time. The BBS LM is a very nice wheel, be interesting to see your version when it is finished.

The colour must be similar to Franz Schaffer car? http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... &start=150
Presumably your going to lower it, what do you plan to use?

TJ, give me a call when you get a mo.

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Post by Stormy_be » Tue 25 Mar, 2014 19:54

Hello,
I'm normally only on the z3-part of this forum.
I couldn't miss the discussion on carbon parts.
I don't know the z1 too well.
What is it you are looking for?

Fiberglass could be a durable and less pricy option instead of carbon?
But you would still need a piece to start from and make a mould from that (maybe the cracked parts could still be used for that -depending on the damage)

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Post by shaikhzeep » Wed 26 Mar, 2014 21:16

Good day TJS,
Thank you for your comments.First i need to get the panels and then paint them.I will post you the end product.

To Jet, lowering it :shock: .Will you tell me what to use.Just direct me and put the link and tell me go ahead.

To Koen, will i already ordered complete body panels accept the hood and the trunk.I can not wait any more.My friend has plastic shop and he said if you provide me with the orginal new panels , i will make another set for you.Well the price is 1/3 the original OEM.

What you think guys?

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Post by Jet » Thu 27 Mar, 2014 11:54

shaikhzeep wrote:Good day TJS,
Thank you for your comments.First i need to get the panels and then paint them.I will post you the end product.

To Jet, lowering it :shock: .Will you tell me what to use.Just direct me and put the link and tell me go ahead.

To Koen, will i already ordered complete body panels accept the hood and the trunk.I can not wait any more.My friend has plastic shop and he said if you provide me with the orginal new panels , i will make another set for you.Well the price is 1/3 the original OEM.

What you think guys?
Shaik,

I cant help unless you share this deal with your plastic shop :wink:

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Post by shaikhzeep » Thu 27 Mar, 2014 16:09

Good day All,

Any one guide me where i can find new exhaust system with two tips.I checked with BTB and they sold the last one two weeks ago. :shock:

If any one has one for sale i will be glad to buy.

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Post by Jet » Thu 27 Mar, 2014 18:29

Next best thing is Nouvalari, they have supplied a few of us, so can vouch for them. They make a full system (or just back box) without the CAT (or with) and will match the existing pipework.

A few images of their work here: http://bmwz1.co.uk/ziki/doku.php?id=exhaust

But best of all is the sound.

http://bmwz1.co.uk/ziki/doku.php?id=exhaust&#sound

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Post by shaikhzeep » Fri 28 Mar, 2014 07:19

Good day Jet,

I already communicated with Nouvalari and i am going to buy the exhaust with two twin tips .

Thanks


http://bmwz1.co.uk/ziki/lib/exe/fetch.p ... sports.jpg

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shaikhzeep wrote:Good day Jet,
I already communicated with Nouvalari and i am going to buy the exhaust with two twin tips .
Thanks

http://bmwz1.co.uk/ziki/lib/exe/fetch.p ... sports.jpg
If you have issues with the rest of the system, go back to them for the SS mid-section with no CAT, and get some 325IX 6branch headers to complete the set, its worth it.

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Post by 692DPG » Sat 03 May, 2014 17:17

Shaikhzeep, welcome.

It looks like you've got a great project going - I can't wait to see it finished. Valencia orange will really suit the interior and the BBS LMs will make it look spectacular. :D
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Post by shaikhzeep » Fri 23 May, 2014 07:09

Thanks 692.
I ordered complete body panels.Some from US and some from Austuria.The only i could not find the rear bumper.Anyone knows where i can find new or good used one?
Thanks :head:

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Post by Budget M3 » Sat 24 May, 2014 13:14

I did not see an advert specifically for a rear bumper, however, this seller has many other used z1 parts listed on this site. You might try contacting him to see what else he has.

http://www.leboncoin.fr/equipement_auto ... tm?ca=12_s

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Post by shaikhzeep » Tue 27 May, 2014 21:24

Good day BudgetM3,

I do not know french.If someone can contact him and see if he has rear bumper good condition for sale?

If yes, then how much and how much to ship it to Saudi Arabia zip code 31952

I appreciated.

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Post by shaikhzeep » Tue 27 May, 2014 21:45

Budget M3

I found this company in germany and they have the rear bumper and i contacted them and they gave me the price but they told me the shipping price is expensive and i said how much and they refused to tell me and stopped replying me.

Their link

http://www.dhd24.com/azl/?anz_id=75119036

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Post by shaikhzeep » Tue 27 May, 2014 22:01

good day,

Another one but in germany and do not know germany.

Can someone check if this bumper is in good shape and how much?

Thanks

the link

http://www.auto-treff.com/bmw/vb/showth ... p?t=132478

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Post by shaikhzeep » Tue 27 May, 2014 22:27

Good day,

I found this one on ebay,

http://www.ebay.de/itm/BMW-Z1-Stosstang ... 4339&rt=nc

Can someone talk to him.Germany again

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Post by felix » Wed 28 May, 2014 16:17

The autotreff ad is from 2005 so it's probably sold by now. :)

The dhd24 ad is almost 3 years old - did they give any indication that they still have the part?

The ebay ad says collection only - I can understand that since finding packaging for something as large and fragile as a bumper is not easy.

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Post by 692DPG » Wed 28 May, 2014 18:05

Shaikhzeep,

I would ask him a question in English - most German people will be able to respond. I have translated the advert below for your information:

I offer here a used rear bumper of the BMW Z1.
The color is ur green-metalic.
Please note the article is not in particularly good condition
Private sale, no warranty or guarantee.
No shipping, Item Collection

This is a used rear bumper in ur green-Metalic with signs of wear, scratches and a repaired crack at the exhaust output (see image). Mountings in order (ok).

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Re: BMW Z1 1989

Post by Cabrioot » Wed 28 May, 2014 20:55

Hi
This is a link to a german companie that specilised in z1.
See hhis webside and send him your questions.
http://www.agentur-hoffmann.de

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