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The engine bay looks untouched.
A friend owes a salvage business in The Netherlands. I understand from him sales of salvage are very closely governed in the country. Only 5 or 6 companies have salvage licenses. So if anyone is interested then in theory you should be buying from an honourable source.
A friend owes a salvage business in The Netherlands. I understand from him sales of salvage are very closely governed in the country. Only 5 or 6 companies have salvage licenses. So if anyone is interested then in theory you should be buying from an honourable source.
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - Keeper rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Cookies) - Keeper rebuilt having been bought with a seized engine
2002 Z3 3.0 Sapphire Black (Peanut) - Keeper awaiting rebuilding having been bought as an abandoned project
Plus Willy, Kodak & Maycee - All 2.2 Sport projects. Yes, 6 is a lot of Z3s
Always happy to try and help with spares
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And a sad excuse for a Z1 at €25K - https://www.schadeautos.nl/de/suche/Unf ... 20/0/0/1/0
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Looks like a ruptured rubber fuel line. It is probably worth checking hoses and replacing with modern J30R10 spec Nitrile lined hoses given the Ethanol in modern fuels will degrade Butyl based rubber hoses. I think I need to put this to the top of the Z1 To Do list.
I came across these lightweight fire extinguishers at the recent Bicester Scramble. It should fit into the compartment behind the passenger seat. Hopefully it will never need to be used.
http://www.firetool.co.uk/index.html
I came across these lightweight fire extinguishers at the recent Bicester Scramble. It should fit into the compartment behind the passenger seat. Hopefully it will never need to be used.
http://www.firetool.co.uk/index.html
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Good idea.TJS wrote:Looks like a ruptured rubber fuel line. It is probably worth checking hoses and replacing with modern J30R10 spec Nitrile lined hoses given the Ethanol in modern fuels will degrade Butyl based rubber hoses. I think I need to put this to the top of the Z1 To Do list.
I came across these lightweight fire extinguishers at the recent Bicester Scramble. It should fit into the compartment behind the passenger seat. Hopefully it will never need to be used.
http://www.firetool.co.uk/index.html
for those without a glovebox, I would aim for the passenger footwell, where a glovebox should/would have been.
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Excellent thought/reminder on the fuel lines. I replaced mine perhaps 6 years ago and the originals were hardened and almost brittle. Fairly easy if somewhat messy DIY.
And nice extinguishers - ideal would be a mount just under the front of passenger seat.
And nice extinguishers - ideal would be a mount just under the front of passenger seat.
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TJS has made a very good point about fuel line hoses and ethanol.
Does anyone know if the "original" BMW parts available today are of appropriate, up to date,
nitrile construction?
Or is there a danger that the hoses could be "new, old stock" and not suitable for use with ethanol fuels?
Would be good to see some expert views both here or in "Straight Six". I cannot recall seeing anything on the subject in the Club magazine. Rather surprising in view of the significant number of BMW classics.
Pat
Does anyone know if the "original" BMW parts available today are of appropriate, up to date,
nitrile construction?
Or is there a danger that the hoses could be "new, old stock" and not suitable for use with ethanol fuels?
Would be good to see some expert views both here or in "Straight Six". I cannot recall seeing anything on the subject in the Club magazine. Rather surprising in view of the significant number of BMW classics.
Pat
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I don’t think you will find specific lengths of pipe for the Z1-Z3 range or indeed other classics like the 2002 etc. BMW sell their fuel pipe in specific 1 meter lengths – from memory it is more expensive than general motor accessory store stuff, costing about £15 - 20. My investigations pointed to it being very high quality and as you say, able to cope with more corrosive forms of petrol around the World. The outside is stamped with the BMW brand and manufacture date. The BMW clips holding the fuel pipe are also very good quality and stainless steel. I would recommend staying with these BMW parts.
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I agree, BMW fuel hose is definitely much better quality than other hoses that you can find on the market.
For the Z1, you need to buy about 2 meter of fuel hose + some specific hoses cut and bent with a specific shape. I did that 2 or 3 years ago and as far as I remember, all thoses parts were "fresh", not 20 years old stock
For the Z1, you need to buy about 2 meter of fuel hose + some specific hoses cut and bent with a specific shape. I did that 2 or 3 years ago and as far as I remember, all thoses parts were "fresh", not 20 years old stock
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I think we have a task for the next UK Z1 Technical day, perhaps even arrange a day in a workshop specifically to deal with replacing fuel lines on a group basis with a prize for who arrives with the least amount of fuel in the tank ! My daughter would win that competition easily; never borrow a teenagers car .. it runs on fumes.
I had to replace the fuel lines in the TVR, luckily no harm done, and the TVR specialist supplied marine grade hoses which have greater external fire resistance as the lines routed within 4cms of the exhaust manifold. Luckily we don't have that problem with the Z1. 8mm internal diameter / 13mm outer R9 spec hose should be fine with stainless steel hose clamps. I assume oem BMW clamps are the single use compressible "O" rings. Modern R9 spec hose and stainless fittings are widely available plus of course we have the option of BMW kit. The under noted quote caught my eye .. R9 hose has less than 3% permitivity of 80's / 90's fuel hose. What's the permitivity of 25 year old fuel hose !
"" The specific SAE Standard for fuel conveying hoses is SAE J30,
The R6/7/8 Standards represent the drive to cut vapour emissions on carburatted cars in the 1980s & 1990s, with the R9 Standard building on this to cater for the introduction of fuel injection and bio-enhanced fuels.
It can be seen that R9 fuel hose that has been DESIGNED to work with modern fuels has less than 3% of the permitivity of 1980s & 1990s fuel hose. It even out performs the "A1" (ISO 7840) hosing mandated for use in the MARINE environment, where they are hugely stringent about fire-safety.! ""
AS Felix mentioned earlier it is a DIY task which will be easier with access to hydraulic ramps. If anyone is interest in a group workshop day let me know
I had to replace the fuel lines in the TVR, luckily no harm done, and the TVR specialist supplied marine grade hoses which have greater external fire resistance as the lines routed within 4cms of the exhaust manifold. Luckily we don't have that problem with the Z1. 8mm internal diameter / 13mm outer R9 spec hose should be fine with stainless steel hose clamps. I assume oem BMW clamps are the single use compressible "O" rings. Modern R9 spec hose and stainless fittings are widely available plus of course we have the option of BMW kit. The under noted quote caught my eye .. R9 hose has less than 3% permitivity of 80's / 90's fuel hose. What's the permitivity of 25 year old fuel hose !
"" The specific SAE Standard for fuel conveying hoses is SAE J30,
The R6/7/8 Standards represent the drive to cut vapour emissions on carburatted cars in the 1980s & 1990s, with the R9 Standard building on this to cater for the introduction of fuel injection and bio-enhanced fuels.
It can be seen that R9 fuel hose that has been DESIGNED to work with modern fuels has less than 3% of the permitivity of 1980s & 1990s fuel hose. It even out performs the "A1" (ISO 7840) hosing mandated for use in the MARINE environment, where they are hugely stringent about fire-safety.! ""
AS Felix mentioned earlier it is a DIY task which will be easier with access to hydraulic ramps. If anyone is interest in a group workshop day let me know
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This looks to be the same item but with slightly different branding https://www.amazon.co.uk/PFE-1-Portable ... ag_m_pw_dp
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Solve root cause
Don't buy fire extinguisher, buy new hoses
Don't buy fire extinguisher, buy new hoses