'module not read' carsoft questions - codes read free!!

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Sat 21 Jun, 2008 15:38

Hi, just wondering if anybody has had problems getting Carsoft (snide v6.5) to read various modules on the full diagnose.

I can only read and reset the engine control, airbag, central body electronics and the immobiliser. live data works fine...

I am not too fussed about the module reading but it will not read any of the service interval stuff and hence not reset the service lights

I'm in sutton SM1 if anybody wants anything read/reset as you can kinda be a guinnea pig to see if its just my zed that wont work.

I have checked the fuses under the bonnet and left the battery disconnected for 10 mins as well as doing it with the ignition off, pos 2 and the engine on all to no avail.

Thanks for any help

ribs · Post by **ribs** » Sun 22 Jun, 2008 14:38

I've just got Carsoft 6.5 too. I've run it just once and was in a hurry, but I had the same problem... the only module it read was the DME.

The car has been at a garage since then (having an exhaust mod done) so have not been able to try again. But I have 'obtained' some new software, still 6.5, and installed this with no problems. Should be picking the car up tomorrow night so will try the new software on Tuesday... I'll let you know how I get on.

When I did run it breafly the DME module did report an error though..

Module info : DME/DDE
BMS 46
BMW Part Nr : 1430940
Hardware Nr : 00
Software Nr : F0
Diagnose Index : 60
Code Index : 00
Bus Index : A7
Production Date : 31/00

171 Fuel Delivery System

I take it the error code is '171'. Do you know if this is a standard DTC, which I would have expected it to look like P0171 or P1171, a BMW code (in which case I can't find it in the list I have) or a Carsoft code. 'Fuel Delivery System' doesn't sound too helpful.

Do you know??

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Mon 23 Jun, 2008 21:22

I'm afraid I dont

My only errors were obvious - as you say - 'fuel system' s a little vague!

....anybody in Sutton / Wimbledon are that I can try with to see if I have any more luck?

....downlaoded 6.5.06 (SP1??) and it made no diff...rrr I am going to have to buy a draper reset tool to do my service light. Irritating when this should work - and doubly so when I already have one but its 9000 miles away in South Africa.....

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Mon 30 Jun, 2008 15:19

Any luck with yours Ribs??

Is there anybody in Wimbledon / Sutton area whos codes I can read??

aceman · Post by **aceman** » Tue 01 Jul, 2008 16:31

I have been thinking of getting Carsoft myself but your comments worry me as to whether it is worth it. One thing that springs to mind as I know coming from VAG vehicles if you use a USB to serial adapter you could not connect to all of the modules. What are you guys using in terms of interface ? I have been looking at the ones available on Ebay for around £50.

daverave · Post by **daverave** » Tue 01 Jul, 2008 16:55

Rob
I'm in Sutton every weekday. PM me and you can use me as a guinnea pig if you want. Only take Zed in on Sunny days though

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Tue 01 Jul, 2008 17:33

My laptop has a serial port so no adapters for me. - the ones on ebay are what I have - tried the v6.5 it comes with and a V6.5 with the service pack but still only reads a few modules - hopefully with Daves help I'll figure out if its my car or the interface/SW.

Thanks Daverave - will PM....

ribs · Post by **ribs** » Tue 01 Jul, 2008 23:04

Hi Rob.... sorry I took so long, been having fun with exhaust mods.

I got a new copy of Carsoft 6.5 with service pack 1, but still only got the DME module to report any status... whats more I have 2 error codes show up now (141 and 171). Neither of these have a meaningfull description in the carsoft software and, after a visit to my local $tealer, these codes are not the same as codes given by the 'real' BMW ODB reader... so they couldn't help either

.

I've just about given up with Carsoft .. (another £50 down the drain

) .. about the only usefull thing I can see is that it resets the errors OK, turning of the waring light on the dash ... oh, the live data is fun to look at I suppose, would be even betting if I knew what I was looking at though

aceman · Post by **aceman** » Mon 07 Jul, 2008 10:27

For all you guys struggling to get Carsoft to work the read the following thread on Bimmerforums.com, you will find it very informative and resourceful especially page 4 !!

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh ... p?t=952429

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Mon 07 Jul, 2008 16:26

Thanks for that aceman! my crack indeed only had 4 files - I have downloaded it all and will give it a go and report back - if the rain STOPS!!! rrr

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Tue 08 Jul, 2008 06:46

rrrr nope - did exactly as he said with all the new downloads and it still will not read the same modules - mainly the inst. cluster to reset the service light. Will play more later but hopefully I'll try on Daves soon to see if its the car or this seemingly troublesome software!

aceman · Post by **aceman** » Tue 08 Jul, 2008 13:27

Did you do a full uninstall beforehand including manually deletaing any remenants left behind, it just seems from the thread on Bimmerforums.com if you read to the end there are many people with exactly the same problem as yourself and most of them have resolved it following mikes instructions.

I haven't got an interface yet so I can't speak from experience but I suppose there could always be a problem with your interface as there is a processor in the unit which the software has to communicate with, reading around the various forums there have been some low quality ones produced with dodgy firmware etc. so it could be down to the hardware rather then software.

As soon as I get hold of an interface I will post my experiences also.

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Tue 08 Jul, 2008 15:07

To the best of my knowlege I had removed everything - did it as he said in the first page - searching files, deleting restore points etc....

Just in case, I am going to format a spare laptop drive and just install windows and the software he uploaded and see how I get on.... will report back!

aceman · Post by **aceman** » Tue 08 Jul, 2008 16:39

Rob13 wrote:To the best of my knowlege I had removed everything - did it as he said in the first page - searching files, deleting restore points etc....

Just in case, I am going to format a spare laptop drive and just install windows and the software he uploaded and see how I get on.... will report back!

Sounds like a good plan, good luck.

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Tue 08 Jul, 2008 17:08

No luck!!

Exactly the same - only reads 4 modules and the live data - I just want the inst. cluster to be read

Was a fresh XP install and followed his instructions to the T.

Hopefully I'll be able to eliminate the car soon then its interface/SW.....will re-read the bimmer forum stuff when I have time later.

aceman · Post by **aceman** » Tue 08 Jul, 2008 18:33

Just a thought are you using the OBDII socket for diagnostics or the 20pin round connector under the bonnet as I noticed on the Bimmerforums some people can only read certain modules on either of the two sockets so it might be worth trying the other socket to see if you can read the instrument cluster.

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Wed 09 Jul, 2008 06:07

Yes - the 20 pin under the bonnet - my 97 does not have the 'in car socket' - well there is nothing under the steering wheel colum at least - is this where is would be?

aceman · Post by **aceman** » Wed 09 Jul, 2008 09:24

Yes there is a flap under the steering wheel with the OBDII port, mine has both but then mine is a '99 so they must have started fitting them '98-'99.

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Mon 14 Jul, 2008 16:41

Well I tried the my carsoft setup on Daves '00 3.0 and it worked fine...rrrr reading the ABS and instrument clusters which it will not do on mine. I guess either my instrument cluster AND ABS are not playing ball or the carsoft software is not fully functional with all BMW software - Daves being newer.

Anyhow - the oil service was reset by shorting pin 7....

daverave · Post by **daverave** » Mon 14 Jul, 2008 18:14

Hi Rob

Was nice to meet you today and chat about Zeds. Only sorry that the test proved it doesn't work on you car. (Nice car BTW). Still at least you have now taken the plunge and used the old trick of shorting the pins to do a reset.
You may have tried this already but have you thought about downloading the official SP1 6.5 software from carsoft.
As you already have a ???? version it may enable you to reinstall. Haven't got the kit so not sure if it would work but I know with other software this is possible.
I like the idea of organising a local cruise. Maybe we could organise one between us some time. I know there are quite few Zroadster members locally and there are some great country roads close at hand as proved on the Dunsfold meet last year.

Dave

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Mon 14 Jul, 2008 18:47

Thanks Dave - yours too - wish I had all those options!

Tried to read the modules again when I got home with no luck so just shorted it for three seconds.
...there was a black 3.0 about 300 meters away from your work - wonder if its anybody on here - should try encourage a south London run

Post by **Robert T** » Mon 14 Jul, 2008 19:19

One little thought, as I have been watching you guys struggling away for a while....

The engine management modules in a '97 car will not be the same as those in an '00. There were a number of changes, not least the integration of the alarm into the engine management. These changes seem to have been phased in, so it is not as clear cut as pre-/post- facelift. There are definitely two different odometer units as the self-test modes are different.

I guess what I am trying to say is that there may be some things which you cannot read on an older car because the car's electronics don't support it.

HTH.

Cheers R.

Rob13 · Post by **Rob13** » Mon 14 Jul, 2008 19:36

In theory it should read all the Z3s' the same according to the Carsoft site- most modules are all BMW models 1988-2004 and the odd module is 2001-2004.

Thanks for the ideas though.