Bad day for me and the z

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 17:35

This is the result of a 10mph rear shunt into a merc 450ml.The day started so well to. After turning at a junction he slammed on his brakes because he said a car was heading straight for him and guess who was right behind him ,he admitted it was his fault but we all know that means nothing in a rear end shunt.The car still drove fine but was no fun driving the 30 miles home {roof back up of course}most drivers nearly breaking there necks to get a good look.
Insurance picking up on tuesday to acess.Wandering if its the last time i will see it as my neighbour who owns a garage reckons even though the damage is not that bad the price of all parts/paint/labour will push it above what the insurance will allow against the value of the car.Well if it does come to that i will just have to get another one.
Any way main thing is no one was hurt{apart from my car}the merc only had a very small dent.one of them days you wish you had stayed in bed.

This is what it should look like.

aceman · Post by **aceman** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 17:52

Ouch

Hope you get a satisfactory resolution with the insurance company.

Adam · Post by **Adam** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 17:59

If they value it as non repairable then they are mad. I'm sure that you could get a third party to sort it out. Source the spares and get it fixed.

seasurfer · Post by **seasurfer** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 17:59

OMG - thats b***y awful, hope you can get it sorted, looks a really nice car. keep us posted

gookah · Post by **gookah** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 18:59

10mph? I didn't think they were that weak,

Diamondj · Post by **Diamondj** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 19:14

Absolutely gutted for you, hope it can be fixed.

TitanTim · Post by **TitanTim** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 19:25

Feel for you eame

if its any consolation looking at the pics the damage doesn't look to be too serious and looks like it will be fully repairable

One of my golden rules is never to follow someone close enough that you can't stop in time no matter how hard they brake. Sometimes this brings problems in itself when someone sees the gap in front of me and tries to push in. Theyre are many w**kers on our roads!!

Best of luck in getting your poorly zed fixed.

Tim.

gookah · Post by **gookah** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 19:44

TitanTim wrote: There are many w**kers on our roads!!

Tim.

I hate walkers..... they just get in the way

and you couldn't have meant 'workers'. I've seen them....... leaning on their shovels

TitanTim · Post by **TitanTim** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 20:02

gookah wrote:
TitanTim wrote: There are many w**kers on our roads!!

Tim.
I hate walkers..... they just get in the way
and you couldn't have meant 'workers'. I've seen them....... leaning on their shovels

Get the odd winker or two

Tim.

Post by **Robert T** » Sat 24 Jul, 2010 21:37

Really sorry to hear and see this. I went through something similar a couple of years ago - probably even slower speed impact than yours - but same problem - the bumper of the other car rode over the zed's and damaged the nose of the bonnet. I don't know how close it was to being written off, as a new bonnet wouldn't be cheap, but my insurance did pay out.

Do you know what damage has been done to the slam plate and the area behind the headlamps? Looks like there is a little bit as one of the headlamps is out of line.

Nose to rear impact may well go down as a fault claim, simply because you are supposed to be able to cope with the driver in front doing an emergency stop. Only exceptions I think would be a car reversing into you or performing an illegal manoeuvre.

Anyway, I hope you get it fixed soon and then you can forget all about it.

Cheers R.

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Sun 25 Jul, 2010 08:16

Thanks to everyone for the nice and supportive comments,just opened the garage and B****R it really did happen.
Well just have to wait and see what the insurance decides
About damage behind ,hard to tell because bonnet won,t open you can see that rad is bent as well as air con pipe,nothing is leaking though,lights are both broke from housings.

Mad Max · Post by **Mad Max** » Sun 25 Jul, 2010 09:13

Gutted for you.

From my own recent experience I'd have to say it's probably a write off, at least in the insurance comanies view anyway. That bonnet is a £2k bit of metal, without paint and I can't imagine the headlights are cheap..!

Obviously you could fix it up yourself a lot cheaper with second hand parts. Best of luck.

snoops · Post by **snoops** » Sun 25 Jul, 2010 09:41

Hi... gutted for you... is this thread no use to you?

http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=

Just a thought...

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Sun 25 Jul, 2010 14:37

Blimey didn,t think the bonnet would be that much,well even though i really enjoy the car i haven,t had it long enough to get to attached to it .
So me and the mrs said if they write it off we will just get another one.
As gutted as i am we all know that theres a lot more important things in life than a dented bit of metal,

Post by **Robert T** » Sun 25 Jul, 2010 15:07

Mad Max wrote:That bonnet is a £2k bit of metal, without paint

So why does BMWFans have it listed at 665 euros? I didn't think the exchange rate was THAT bad! Their prices are generally about the mark, so I don't see it being anything like £2k!

A new bonnet should not result in a write-off - it certainly didn't in my case - however my fear is for hidden damage underneath to the slam plate and rad, which may tip it over the edge, hence my question earlier.

R.

Mad Max · Post by **Mad Max** » Sun 25 Jul, 2010 15:22

Well that's what I was told by the assesor who looked at mine. realOEM.com says it's over $1200:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=41&fg=35

Either way, it's a good chunk of money, probably one of the most expensive individual parts to replace on the Z3.

zyborg · Post by **zyborg** » Sun 25 Jul, 2010 20:16

I did this to mine (same sorta story as yours)

and it was repaired on insurance, repair was just shy of £3500, insurance valued it at £4500 so did the work.

Mine needed 2 new headlights, grill, bonnet, slam pannel, bonnet fittings and some other small bits

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottp1908/4828180876/" title="z3 by scottp1908, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/482 ... 6810da.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="z3" /></a>

gelertd1 · Post by **gelertd1** » Mon 26 Jul, 2010 13:32

That's a piece of cake of a repair - looks to have gone above the bumper.

Similar to the damage I repaired on mine - all bolt on stuff (except the front panel which has a couple of spot welds to drill out - doesn't need spot welding back on - it bolts on)

If you can repair yourself or know someone who can (ask around - speak to a local bodyshop and tell them its not an insurance job) and the insurance intimate they are going to write it off - ask for a price for salvage rights on the vehicle (normally 10% of the PAV - pre accident value - hopefully you still have the vehicle otherwise you may be liable for any storage incurred) - e.g they value it at £4000 - you settle for £3600 and keep the car.

Remember to you its a 'pride and joy' to the insurance company its another pile of junk to be disposed of with all the costs involved - transport, storage, various other fees etc - they need to minimise their loss.

So potentially even using new some parts and avoiding top whack body shops you should have it repaired for about 2K and have £1600 in you back pocket, be patient and use 2nd hand parts and or repair yourself and the wad in the back pocket increases sizeably!.

The bonnet and front panel are the most difficult items to find second hand - if buying new the bonnet is about £800 and the front panel £300 - ask your BMW dealer for discount and delivery (that bonnet is big!)

Insist/argue with the assesor to categorise as a Cat D (can't see there being much argument given the damage) - if you you talk to him/her nicely it might not even be recorded as a loss by the insurance company - no harm in trying

Or just buy the salvage - bung it on ebay and depending on what you paid for salvage double or treble your money

Feel free to pm me if you have any questions regarding the process

Steve

Tori · Post by **Tori** » Mon 26 Jul, 2010 16:55

There is a bonnet on e bay but he wants £700 for it second hand.

zedder3 · Post by **zedder3** » Mon 26 Jul, 2010 16:58

My grandad got away with slamming into the back of someone else's car (i.e. claim went on the other driver's insurance) as the other driver stated it was his fault entirely. Relies on the other driver being VERY honest, but it does happen

indizee · Post by **indizee** » Mon 26 Jul, 2010 17:27

Oh man, I feel your pain. My daughter rear ended twice with the same car in the space of a year. VW Polo, but all damage was just like yours. I used a metal cutter to get the parts off and replaced them all with 2nd hand parts, and even did the spray jobs in the driveway.
My wife's car had a side shunt, very little damage, but got it written off. I reckon that is repairable.

It's not so much how much it's worth, but how much it costs to replace. If the insurance company cover it, buy another one. But I think you love it too much to let it go, and that interior looks quite nice.

Best of luck, I hope either way you get back on the road with a zed real soon.

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Tue 27 Jul, 2010 13:12

Insurance company just collecting the car to take to garage.Thought i would just get a couple more pics.

seasurfer · Post by **seasurfer** » Tue 27 Jul, 2010 14:13

really hope it can be sorted

i really like those wheels

Gill

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Thu 29 Jul, 2010 09:34

Engineer from garage phoned to tell me even though cost of repair stands at £4200 its still could be repaired because of condition of car.They need to strip a little more out to check for any mechanical damage,if not it might well be repaired

Keep you all posted.

OO 1005 · Post by **OO 1005** » Thu 29 Jul, 2010 11:46

Just FYI... the bonnet is £900 - if you get the part number from RealOEM you can then get a price from Cooper BMW - http://www.cooper-bmw-parts.co.uk/

Dakeyras · Post by **Dakeyras** » Thu 29 Jul, 2010 11:53

hope you get it sorted

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Sun 08 Aug, 2010 20:27

Great news! should be getting the z back in a couple of days all repaired

Post some pics up when it arrives.

TitanTim · Post by **TitanTim** » Sun 08 Aug, 2010 20:34

eame64 wrote:Great news! should be getting the z back in a couple of days all repaired
Post some pics up when it arrives.

Tim.

snoops · Post by **snoops** » Sun 08 Aug, 2010 20:37

Brilliant news... looking forward to seeing the pics.

Just love the rich colour of your zed, so glad it will be staying where it should be.... on the road.

swamper · Post by **swamper** » Sun 08 Aug, 2010 20:44

that's great news

Post by **Robert T** » Sun 08 Aug, 2010 21:43

Grand news and somewhat cheering after some of the pessimistic posts in this thread.

Cheers R.

Jackster · Post by **Jackster** » Mon 09 Aug, 2010 09:53

Excellent news mate.

cheers

kev

gelertd1 · Post by **gelertd1** » Mon 09 Aug, 2010 11:12

Great news

Sounds like you have a good insurer, willing to take into consideration the type of vehicle, condition and owner's wishes rather than simply quoting from the book of 'costs'.

Out of interest was your insurance a 'big name' or sourced via a specialist insurer/broker?

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Mon 09 Aug, 2010 16:24

Insured with post office,but Aviva are the actual insurers.
The bmw engineer was the one who convinced aviva that it should be repaired because of its condition.Hats off to him.

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Wed 11 Aug, 2010 21:59

The z was delivered back today,really pleased with the work from the bmw garage{north oxford}and the quick service from the insurance company.Took it out for a quick spin tonight to make sure all was well.Feels great to have it back.
some pics of the repaired z.

swamper · Post by **swamper** » Wed 11 Aug, 2010 22:03

wow that is a good job

good to see it back were it belongs

Hard Top · Post by **Hard Top** » Wed 11 Aug, 2010 22:38

Bloody good job.

Did they replace the bonnet with a new one, must have done.

HT

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Thu 12 Aug, 2010 07:55

[quote="Hard Top"]Bloody good job.

Did they replace the bonnet with a new one, must have done.

As far as i know they replaced the Bonnet,lights,slam plate,radiator+air con pipes,and all clips, catches and grills

gookah · Post by **gookah** » Thu 12 Aug, 2010 08:35

Result!!!!

Dolfan · Post by **Dolfan** » Thu 12 Aug, 2010 12:01

Pleased you got your Zed back, looks like a quality job

Rob Tan · Post by **Rob Tan** » Thu 12 Aug, 2010 21:48

I looked at the pics of the damage and it just made me feel sad!

However, the Z looks fantastic again. Glad you've got it back and all is well.

eame64 · Post by **eame64** » Thu 12 Aug, 2010 22:07

Thanks for the nice comments.
Got me self a nice beige tonneau cover delivered today from flea bay in excellent condition, post a pic when weather improves.Took me over 2 months to win one of these at the right price.

amancuso · Post by **amancuso** » Fri 13 Aug, 2010 00:29

WOW, Looks great, glad you got it all sorted!

paulb1976 · Post by **paulb1976** » Fri 13 Aug, 2010 18:09

Glad to see it's all sorted

TitanTim · Post by **TitanTim** » Fri 13 Aug, 2010 19:24

Good to see it worked out in the end

Tim.

rgf · Post by **rgf** » Fri 13 Aug, 2010 19:59

Looking good again.
Perhaps our insurance premiums are worth it after all?!

risquenun · Post by **risquenun** » Sat 14 Aug, 2010 09:49

So glad to see that you got your car sorted.
I do not believe there are more than half a dozen 'Orinoco' limited edition cars in the 2.8 version in the Country.
Incidentally I know about Mercedes being strong.
My previous toy was a 300ce I owned it 6 weeks and a boy racer decided not to stop on a mini roundabout and t boned me. His XR3 was totally wrecked.
My suspension was damaged and there was a slight dent in the rear wheelarch lip which was panel beaten.
Unfortunately the suspension damage cost over £4,500 to fix, but it was designed to absorb the impact and prevent the shell from twisting.
That car was 10 years old with only 10,00 dry miles .
Fortunately like you it was repaired.

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