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by CoachOz » Fri 17 Dec, 2010 22:44
I've been reading some posts on this issue and am a little confused. I have a 97 2.8 which I presume is a pre facelift wide body. I'm just wondering what the post facelift Zed looks like.
If someone could direct me to some pics of the various models I'd be grateful.
I've seen very few 2.8 and 3.0 models for sale here in Oz as most are the smaller engine variety.
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by Jonttt » Fri 17 Dec, 2010 23:46
The ///M's did not have a facelift
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by Z3Rude » Fri 17 Dec, 2010 23:53
so without a doubt....the 6 cyl pre face lift wide body looks the best
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by Robert T » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 00:16
Z3Rude wrote: so without a doubt....the 6 cyl pre face lift wide body looks the best
Only if
fat bottomed girls are your thing!
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by Z3Rude » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 00:53
in girls NO...cars yes
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by Devon Z » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 01:28
Z3Rude wrote: so without a doubt....the 6 cyl pre face lift wide body looks the best
Errr....no, face lift is way better looking
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by Z3Rude » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 01:48
Devon Z wrote: Z3Rude wrote: so without a doubt....the 6 cyl pre face lift wide body looks the best
Errr....no, face lift is way better looking
nuh uh..it looks just as sissy as the 1.9 pre face....
the TRUE wide body ROCKS
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by amancuso » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 02:59
Z3Rude wrote: Devon Z wrote: Z3Rude wrote: so without a doubt....the 6 cyl pre face lift wide body looks the best
Errr....no, face lift is way better looking
nuh uh..it looks just as sissy as the 1.9 pre face....
the TRUE wide body ROCKS
double nuh uh.... facelift = the BEST!
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by CoachOz » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 08:06
thanks for that - so in the bodywork dept. is it just the reworked guards that differentiate?
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by jontymo » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 09:48
Wide all the way baby
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by eame64 » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 12:56
pre -facelift wide body all the way for me.
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by Gazza » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 13:03
CoachOz wrote: thanks for that - so in the bodywork dept. is it just the reworked guards that differentiate?
yes and the bootlid/rear panel
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by Jonttt » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 13:33
and rear light cluster
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by gookah » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 14:18
Sorry but facelift wins, see this poll
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the others are just too old fashioned looking with their vintage rear lights
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by Robert T » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 16:42
gookah wrote: the others are just too old fashioned looking with their vintage rear lights
Vintage! I'll show you vintage! I have some made by Lucas!
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by Z3cade » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 17:18
I have the facelift but i prefer the look of the wide body pre facelift....
Its more agressive looking i think....
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by seasurfer » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 18:15
Z3Rude wrote: Devon Z wrote: Z3Rude wrote: so without a doubt....the 6 cyl pre face lift wide body looks the best
Errr....no, face lift is way better looking
nuh uh..it looks just as sissy as the 1.9 pre face....
the TRUE wide body ROCKS
+ another one here - wide pre=facelift is BEST
looks just as it should do - beefy
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by Z3Rude » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 18:26
ta doll
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by c_w » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 18:32
The pre-facelift looks more aggressive but also older, the face lift still looks good, about 50:50 for me.
However the Z3M Roadster rear looks better than both, and though the pre-facelift non-M is similar the 4 pipes and relocation of the reg plate completely transform it IMO.
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by CoachOz » Sat 18 Dec, 2010 20:56
Well IMHO, the M looks best but to find one here in OZ would need to spend $10,000+ more than I paid for my 2.8. So back in the real world I have to say pre looks best to me - and I own one!
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by TaffZee » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 14:09
Pre facelift all the way
It had more of an A$$ lift than a facelift
Big bottomed girls all the way
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by Jonttt » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 18:43
I'll show you mine if you show me yours
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by TitanTim » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 20:29
May as well show my backside
With a slight tilt to the right.......Hic
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by Ian_C » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 21:35
Since we're all showing our butts......
Current...
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Previously...
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by TitanTim » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 21:37
^^^^A rose in between 2 thawns^^^^
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by seasurfer » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 22:19
TitanTim wrote: ^^^^A rose in between 2 thawns^^^^
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by CoachOz » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 22:22
Ok, so two pretty comely rear ends?
So how do I get a pic of my zed below my posts?
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by seasurfer » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 22:23
TitanTim wrote: May as well show my backside
With a slight tilt to the right.......Hic
Tim.
Its the weight of that lip which is stuck on upside down, and that badge thats wonky too, better keep in the garage
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by TitanTim » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 22:28
seasurfer wrote: TitanTim wrote: May as well show my backside
With a slight tilt to the right.......Hic
Tim.
Its the weight of that lip which is stuck on upside down, and that badge thats wonky too, better keep in the garage
Talking of weight and wonky............
You really need someone in that passenger seat
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by seasurfer » Mon 20 Dec, 2010 22:35
Why ? i like talking to myself