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peterandjenny
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230955914181? ... 530wt_1224

But how did it get a mot with the mileage going backwards should that have been an automatic fail?
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22/02/13 - 66688
03/03/12 - 61378
18/02/11 - 57400
04/01/10 - 137057
19/11/09 - 136995
12/11/08 - 132525
07/03/08 - 131659
18/07/07 - 149198
03/07/06 - 144662

It has been turned back twice, 07/03/08 and 18/12/11

Could've had new guages but I think they reset to current mileage ?
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There are so many things wrong with the ad that I wouldn't touch it with a 20ft barge pole. It is clearly a 2.8 which by the looks of it has been clocked to take 100,000 miles off it. There are no pictures of the instruments, but I'd be interested to know if the tamper dot is showing.

VOSA don't seem to do anything with the mileage - my frog was recorded with 60,000 miles less on the clock one year as the tester misread the leading 7 for a 1 (it sits behind the speedo needle). It just gets logged in the electronic history and ignored unless someone actively goes and looks at it.

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Amazing what you can do with a few badges. I had a friend who picked up a 1.9 a few years back which was badged as a M, had the steering wheel , gearstick etc etc. He was a bit gutted and embarrased when I pointed out it was just badged up and wasn't a special in any way.

As for the ad £2800 seems a lot for a dodgy car

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That's an interesting proposition. The mileage is going backwards and the private individual selling it, is not the registered owner :shock:
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It's registered and that's about it. There is no supporting information on "MyCarCheck" which uses DVLA data.


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gas guzzler wrote:was badged as a M, had the steering wheel , gearstick etc etc.
The ///M badges on the steering wheel and gearknob are standard trim for many zeds and don't denote that they are either special or that they have been added later - they are known as M-tech parts. Mine has them and I know it came from the factory like that as I am the first (and only) owner. ///M badges on the kidney grilles and boot however were only factory fitted to true ///M cars, similarly with the door kick plates. ///M gills and wing-mirrors have been retrofitted by quite a lot of people now and don't necessarily indicate that a big 3.2 litre throbbing beast lies beneath. :wink:

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Clocking should be an automatic fail or shown up on all further mot's. The information is available online but only with the information on the v5 that a dubious seller would find a reason for not disclosing.
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Go to http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Z3m-2-8-67000 ... 7675.l2557 and check out the origional ad
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Call the m police :shock:
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It's a real beauty..

Best ring the gong for the M police
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Z3cade wrote:It's a real beauty..

Best ring the gong for the M police
gong or dong :D

keep m bits on m cars only, stop the impersonation :head: :roll:
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Ooooh the M badge on the grille, where do I sign?? :lol:
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Eurgh it looks like they've cut a giagantic hole in the boot ceiling and mounted a sub in there too, what a mess. Good luck to him with a £1999 starting bid, that's just not going to sell in that state especially with the dodgy mileage history.
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Notice the seller has put the MOT Mileage up on ebay now- seller says he's just found out and how devastated he is and that's why he's dropped the starting price. Good luck anyone bidding.


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I wonder why because he is in the Royal navy that his integrity is good :?

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TR4man wrote:I wonder why because he is in the Royal navy that his integrity is good :?

Caveat Emptor

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I think he put that up because once had a packet of fisherman's friends .... I would avoid this car like the plague . he got a pup and is trying to get rid quick :shock:
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Judging by the rear wings it is a 2.8, but the front apron appears to be for a 1.9 litre model, with built-in splitters at the sides, which is at variance with the the twin chrome tailpipes and the 2.8 badge on the boot lid, which, like the facelift interior, were not fitted to the S registered 1999 models.

My guess is that it's a pre-September 1998 single-Vanos 2.8, but one never knows - pity there is not a picture of the engine bay - I wonder why . . . .
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I think that someone who hasn't got a clue has been scammed and is trying to get out of a bad situation without scamming anyone else.

He didn't know it wasn't an M until someone told him. He didn't have a mileage history until someone told him.

If he were a scammer, he would relist with different photos and the original (non-edited) mileage.

It's probably worth about £1200.
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So what is the milage? :puzzle:

About 200k? Feel sorry for the chap really as he's the one who's got scammed

Edit, I thought these cars couldn't be clocked?
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Having bought the car, he may as well drive it, and get his money's worth out of it - if he ripped out the silly amplifier and sub from the boot it would have a decent amount of space. After removal of the 'M' and '2.8' badges, and having a bit of paintwork done properly, it could be a nice car. Even if the true milage is around 200k, it would still probably have another 150k left in it.
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Having bought the car, he may as well drive it, and get his money's worth out of it - if he ripped out the silly amplifier and sub from the boot it would have a decent amount of space. After removal of the 'M' and '2.8' badges, and having a bit of paintwork done properly, it could be a nice car. Even if the true milage is around 200k, it would still probably have another 150k left in it.
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Z3cade wrote:...I thought these cars couldn't be clocked?
You just need to change the instrument cluster :wink: .

http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=36394

MF, he says that the car is too small for him, so it's no good keeping it.
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