Bertini GT25 - new Z3 body change kitcar
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1 or 3 for me .
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Number 3 for me.
Although would love to see what centre quad pipes would look like, similar to that fitted to a V12 etype!
Although would love to see what centre quad pipes would look like, similar to that fitted to a V12 etype!
In love with driving again (its the Z effect)
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No3 looks good, I think 1 is a little over kill and 2 just looks out of place.
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Another thumbs up for No3.
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Pic three for me also
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here are a few more options based of some of the suggestions i have received - cheers for all the input guys.
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
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Absolutely definately totally no6! Looks spot on, all the others look wrong somehow.
Cheers
Dave
Cheers
Dave
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Totally agreeDavejue1 wrote:Absolutely definately totally no6! Looks spot on, all the others look wrong somehow.
Cheers
Dave
Ferdinand
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BMW 3.0iA Sport Edition 08/2002 - iPod kit, CTEK MXS 7000 batterycharger & Protek Protector Roof Cover ;o)
Range Rover 4.6 V8 HSE 03/2000, Webasto preheater and CTEK MXS 7000 batterycharger
Citroën Xsara 2.0 110 Hdi Prestige hatchback with VTS alloys, Musketier rear spoiler and Webasto preheater
Volvo 144 1.8 B18 09/1967
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http://www.zroadster.net
http://www.z3-roadster-forum.de
http://www.z3-forum.de
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Haha just like I suggested some time ago - now you also have to figure out a setup for headlight washers and an autolevelling system for the headlights
Awaiting the final product
Ferdinand
BMW 3.0iA Sport Edition 08/2002 - iPod kit, CTEK MXS 7000 batterycharger & Protek Protector Roof Cover ;o)
Range Rover 4.6 V8 HSE 03/2000, Webasto preheater and CTEK MXS 7000 batterycharger
Citroën Xsara 2.0 110 Hdi Prestige hatchback with VTS alloys, Musketier rear spoiler and Webasto preheater
Volvo 144 1.8 B18 09/1967
http://www.zroadster.org
http://www.zroadster.net
http://www.z3-roadster-forum.de
http://www.z3-forum.de
http://www.zroadster.com
BMW 3.0iA Sport Edition 08/2002 - iPod kit, CTEK MXS 7000 batterycharger & Protek Protector Roof Cover ;o)
Range Rover 4.6 V8 HSE 03/2000, Webasto preheater and CTEK MXS 7000 batterycharger
Citroën Xsara 2.0 110 Hdi Prestige hatchback with VTS alloys, Musketier rear spoiler and Webasto preheater
Volvo 144 1.8 B18 09/1967
http://www.zroadster.org
http://www.zroadster.net
http://www.z3-roadster-forum.de
http://www.z3-forum.de
http://www.zroadster.com
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Wide dual exit definitely works! I knew it! It might also look good with slightly oval shape tips.
Z3M style would look much better than it looks now if the angle of the photoshopped dual pipes per side would be correct in relation to the car...
Z3M style would look much better than it looks now if the angle of the photoshopped dual pipes per side would be correct in relation to the car...
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The Bertini GT25 is back from the paint shop hand the kit fitted. In pretty excited now as next week the lights are going in and the car will have its MOT.
I have got a walk around video on the facebook site which I will try and post.
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
I have got a walk around video on the facebook site which I will try and post.
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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WOW !! Looks so much better in colour...and Estoril Blue too....
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here is the video of a walk around of the car - i am really happy with the panel gaps. it makes the car feel like a production car.
I have also got the exhaust box ready for fabrication. (its alot smaller than the VERY HEAVY original. and will make a great sound!
I'm fitting a the full strong strut system next week too.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=68 ... =2&theater
I have also got the exhaust box ready for fabrication. (its alot smaller than the VERY HEAVY original. and will make a great sound!
I'm fitting a the full strong strut system next week too.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=68 ... =2&theater
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Looking very nice, you must be pleased with the results. I've been looking forward to see how this would turn out. Now please don't take this the wrong way as it's not meant to be a criticism, I've been seriously considring this as a kit for my Z3 as I like cars that are different, and that's where my problem lies. To me I can still see to much of the Z3 but that could be because I know it's a Z3. The question I'm asking myself at the moment is would I want to go through the expense of taking my very nice Z3 apart adding your panels and then the added expense of a respray. I really do like what you've done and I hope you do well with it, maybe I need to stop looking at it as a Z3.
Don't suppose you can do a photoshop, or whatever it's called, of it in red
Andy
Don't suppose you can do a photoshop, or whatever it's called, of it in red
Andy
Andy
1999 Z3 2.8 RED, back with me
1999 Z3 2.8 RED, back with me
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For being parked in the mud with no lights and trim that is looking good!
I think with the hood down this will look even better, less Noddy like than a Z when there is a tall bloke sat inside!
What about the side sills- are you working on some to give the side some more shape and tie it in with the lower chin? (I'd buy some shapely side sills from you for my car and I suspect many of us would and the full kit buyers as rusty sills are common place now. It's the only place I have any rust in fact...)
I think with the hood down this will look even better, less Noddy like than a Z when there is a tall bloke sat inside!
What about the side sills- are you working on some to give the side some more shape and tie it in with the lower chin? (I'd buy some shapely side sills from you for my car and I suspect many of us would and the full kit buyers as rusty sills are common place now. It's the only place I have any rust in fact...)
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Very nice clean lines
I agree maybe add on sills or replacements to compliment the back and front level
Nice colour, cant wait to see the lights fitted
I agree maybe add on sills or replacements to compliment the back and front level
Nice colour, cant wait to see the lights fitted
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The next car will be red it will start life as a roadster and eventually be the coupe/fastback.
I also intend to do a 2.0 diesel conversion to the fastback for everyday economical driving.
With regards to the sills. In the future when I have got some more cash I intend to slightly rework the mini wings and sills to remove the sucked in 'dimple' that the Z3 has behind the front wheels. This will be an after market extra and developed after/at the same time as the fastback. But currently I have a bit of a deadline. Need to get it all sorted for the magazine articles before the stoneleigh kitcar show.
I also intend to do a 2.0 diesel conversion to the fastback for everyday economical driving.
With regards to the sills. In the future when I have got some more cash I intend to slightly rework the mini wings and sills to remove the sucked in 'dimple' that the Z3 has behind the front wheels. This will be an after market extra and developed after/at the same time as the fastback. But currently I have a bit of a deadline. Need to get it all sorted for the magazine articles before the stoneleigh kitcar show.
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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The front lights have been fitted. Final stages of exhaust fabrication and preparing the Bertini for its MOT to complete.
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Looking better all time. Lovely job
Clever boy
Clever boy
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I really really like this.
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I would like to see some pictures with the roof down as with the Z3 it gives a totally better look.
Also is it possible to get it lowered a bit..
Also is it possible to get it lowered a bit..
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I'm changing the good for a blue one in 2 weeks. It needs a new window too. So I will do a few roof down shots this Thursday.
The car has already been lowered 30mm but because it is lighter it has prob lost some of that lowering. I might get even lower springs put on.
The car has already been lowered 30mm but because it is lighter it has prob lost some of that lowering. I might get even lower springs put on.
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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I wonder if BMW got as much feedback as you have had lol
Or maybe that's the route they should take with there new designs, make them public
Or maybe that's the route they should take with there new designs, make them public
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I have similar threads on about 6 forums.
Madaboutkitcars
Madmechanics
Zroadster.org
Pistonheads gassing
Pistonheads kitcar
Bimmers.com forum
Plus my facebook page
And a couple of MX5 ones
I have had lots of opinions and I can say that it has all been useful.
Some comments I have taken on board and have made it into the designs.
Thanks guys
Madaboutkitcars
Madmechanics
Zroadster.org
Pistonheads gassing
Pistonheads kitcar
Bimmers.com forum
Plus my facebook page
And a couple of MX5 ones
I have had lots of opinions and I can say that it has all been useful.
Some comments I have taken on board and have made it into the designs.
Thanks guys
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Will be interesting to see how much weight it's lost.
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Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Are those M roadster mirrors you have fitted ? Should have done something else there...Perhaps the new Mini mirror...People see those, they're likely to want them for their cars too... Perhaps get a set of Mini mirrors, and have the bases altered to fit the Z3 door angle and bolt positions...?? They are certainly more common these days...
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Yep. Z3M mirrors. I tried the new mini ones and they are MASSIVE!!!
it was a shame because I really wanted them to work.
I have been torn between making this car how I want it and how it will be if people want to buy the kit.
it was a shame because I really wanted them to work.
I have been torn between making this car how I want it and how it will be if people want to buy the kit.
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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What a difference with the roof off
you have a lovely looker there
you have a lovely looker there
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Looks great with roof down and will look even better when clean and photgraphed in a more picturesque setting (not that your shed isn't lovely!!!).
Love the rear lights, any more pics?
This car to me looks Italian and with some Alfa type wheels could easily be the Alfa Z3 they never built.
Cants wait to see it in the flesh.
Love the rear lights, any more pics?
This car to me looks Italian and with some Alfa type wheels could easily be the Alfa Z3 they never built.
Cants wait to see it in the flesh.
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it looks fantastic!
would love to see it in the flesh.
would love to see it in the flesh.
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Good luck with the MOT !! And well done with the project !
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A few pictures if the rear.
MOT retest tomorrow. Some internet site sold me LHD headlights. Lucky I have another similar set to use
MOT retest tomorrow. Some internet site sold me LHD headlights. Lucky I have another similar set to use
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
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Dumb question, but can't the LHD lights be adjusted to point to the left?
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The direction can be adjusted. But there is a 'flick up' on the left side on rhd lights and vic versa. That can't be adjusted
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Here are the first finished photos of the Bertini GT25
I have launched the website www.BertiniGT25.com
I have launched the website www.BertiniGT25.com
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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here are a few walk around videos of the finished car.
http://youtu.be/0Q1x4h442Fo
http://youtu.be/0OwSForDf-o
http://youtu.be/0Q1x4h442Fo
http://youtu.be/0OwSForDf-o
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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How does it drive with the lighter body?
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this may sound stupid but.....how does the bonnet open? i can't see any seems, is it the whole front end that lifts?
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It drives really well. I suspect it's only around 40-50kg lighter. I'm getting the full strong strutt system fitted soon. So u will see if there are any improvements from that.Dino D wrote:How does it drive with the lighter body?
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Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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The whole front lifts up with the lights from the original hinges.Mugs wrote:this may sound stupid but.....how does the bonnet open? i can't see any seems, is it the whole front end that lifts?
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Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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The full strong strut setup, I await your commentsChoc wrote:It drives really well. I suspect it's only around 40-50kg lighter. I'm getting the full strong strutt system fitted soon. So u will see if there are any improvements from that.Dino D wrote:How does it drive with the lighter body?
I just need to fit the body brace on mine, its patiently waiting in the garage to be fitted, this will complete my setup
There is a lot of opinions regarding the benefits
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My garage were sceptical as to the potential benefits. But I will wait and see. Looking forward to trying it out.
BertiniGT25@gmail.com
www.BertiniGT25.com
BertiniGT25@gmail.com
www.BertiniGT25.com
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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Here is a picture of the seats I have just had re-trimmed. Black leather with blue alcantara. Plus the Bertini logo stitched into the back. Love it!
BertiniGT25@gmail.com
www.BertiniGT25.com
Bertini GT25 - Kitcar based on the BMW Z3 and Z3M roadster
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
https://www.facebook.com/BertiniGT25
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My opinion about car looks - it looks like some child toy with this face grin. Looks more as VW hippy bus than serious Aston Martin (I see there some wanna be Aston Martin influence in front grille.) So it looks like some baby of some more serious car.
Mirrors look awesome - even better than on Z3M.
What I hate the most - that is the back of the car. It should be more rounded if you wanted some cool elegant Jaguar E-type look and not so bulky low. Now it looks like some big brick fitted at the back of the car.
Mirrors look awesome - even better than on Z3M.
What I hate the most - that is the back of the car. It should be more rounded if you wanted some cool elegant Jaguar E-type look and not so bulky low. Now it looks like some big brick fitted at the back of the car.