Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

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daveofedinburgh
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Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by daveofedinburgh » Tue 16 Sep, 2014 13:48

As above, its the only thing that failed my Z at its MOT this week.

How much should I be looking to pay a garage for part/ labour?

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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by Del » Tue 16 Sep, 2014 14:39

The cost of sort of job is mostly labour. Brake fluid is likely to be below £10 as is the cost of the new pipe and unions. As far as I am aware there are two sections of pipe to the rear, nearside wheel - 1) a short section going to the axle and 2) a long section feeding its way under the nearside of the car to the ABS pump in the engine bay. Many garages may insert an extra joint to replace the rear section only of the latter rather than renewing the whole length.
Most independents charge around £50 for a brake fluid change and an hours work for the pipe fabrication/fitting seems reasonable - say £60. So my guess is £130 + VAT.

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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by frog farmer » Tue 16 Sep, 2014 16:10

Get it done before Friday as it may cost you double after then..... ;)

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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by Robert T » Tue 16 Sep, 2014 18:13

I had both my rear brake pipes replaced a few years back at my not-so-local BMW dealer (actually the dealer I bought the car from) and they did it for £200 all in. It was 4 hours work, but they didn't seem to charge me for the brake pipe itself (it comes on a drum and they cut it to length). You can see the new pipes going to the ABS pump. I got a slightly better labour rate as it was an older car and an old customer, but if you have a decent relationship with any garage, it needn't cost the earth.

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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by pingu » Tue 16 Sep, 2014 18:22

Del wrote:So my guess is £130 + VAT.
Holy Moly.

I'm glad it only cost me £4.71 + VAT plus a little bit of brake fluid.

You don't need to do a full fluid change, and even if you do, 1 litre of DOT4 is £5, or £12 for DOT5.1.

£100+ for labour is taking the pi$$, but if you don't have the skills, tools or inclination to DIY, you'll just have to pay the man.

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Supply the part, it was £4.71 + VAT from BMW when I last bought one. They are made to length, but not bent to shape.

Noting Robert T's post. If you need the pipe to the ABS pump (which I don't think you do), let someone else do it for £200. If it is just the left rear, it should be <£50.
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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by daveofedinburgh » Tue 16 Sep, 2014 22:51

So am I to assume that the fella I asked for a quote today who drew air in through his teeth and said 'well, it's a bit of a mission if the (fuel) tank has to come out' is talking rubbish?

A quote was not forthcoming, he just wanted me to bring it down, presumably hoping to tell me the tank will need to come out and quote a ton of labour charges...

I have f*ck all mechanical knowledge, but it would seem poor design to me if the tank has to be removed just to replace a brake pipe.

Thoughts?
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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by gookah » Tue 16 Sep, 2014 23:10

daveofedinburgh wrote:So am I to assume that the fella I asked for a quote today who drew air in through his teeth and said 'well, it's a bit of a mission if the (fuel) tank has to come out' is talking rubbish?

A quote was not forthcoming, he just wanted me to bring it down, presumably hoping to tell me the tank will need to come out and quote a ton of labour charges...

I have f*ck all mechanical knowledge, but it would seem poor design to me if the tank has to be removed just to replace a brake pipe.

Thoughts?
some pipes do indeed go over the top of the fuel tank...
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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by Daz3 » Wed 17 Sep, 2014 07:41

I changed all mine without moving the tank not sure if pre and post facelift are different though? As said above the materials aren't expensive for this job just labour, unless you can unbolt and fit the pipe yourself along with bleeding the system?
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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by Del » Wed 17 Sep, 2014 10:11

daveofedinburgh wrote:So am I to assume that the fella I asked for a quote today who drew air in through his teeth and said 'well, it's a bit of a mission if the (fuel) tank has to come out' is talking rubbish?
Not on my pre-facelift 1.9 - and I can't see others being that different :shrug . The brake pipes on mine are nowhere near the fuel tank. The fuel tank is towards the offside of the car and my brake pipes are clipped to the floor pan on the nearside. I've been over every inch of my rear brake pipes with rust killer followed by clear waxoyl.

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Re: Nearside rear brake pipe excessively corroded :-0

Post by Dino D » Wed 17 Sep, 2014 15:39

It cost me about 40 quid including labour as part of the MOT and service at my independent.

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