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Black Kidneys

Post by sviru » Fri 03 Oct, 2014 12:19

Hi.

Does anyone have pictures of a car equipped with this set of kidneys?
Black kidneys on black car. That would be the best. Thanks! (no chrome please)
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Post by ///M_aniac » Fri 03 Oct, 2014 16:28

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Post by sviru » Fri 03 Oct, 2014 17:43

This are normal kidneys - just black. I meant the one on the first post... ;)
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Post by deni2s » Fri 03 Oct, 2014 17:46

sviru, I had seen those kidneys on a car in german z3 forum, but I can't find that picture. Also had seen them in flesh. I do think that original black kidneys look much better, why are you interested in these? I always looked at them as at cheap replicas.

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Post by Kondor » Fri 03 Oct, 2014 18:48

Got to agree. I have the chrome version on my 2.8 and I absolutely hate them.

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Post by sviru » Fri 03 Oct, 2014 19:04

Chrome version is disgusting :) - you are right. I found few pictures of them on german mobile.de... black on black.
I don't want to judge - yet - but I must say that I like them - but don't get me wrong - only on black car.

I asked for a hires photos - then I'll try to Photoshop my car...
Imho they look more modern and aggressive to my taste.

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Post by Rafolian » Sat 04 Oct, 2014 07:21

BOUGHT a set of black plastic ones for my silver 2.8 off a member here earlier this year and wasn't sure at first, but absolutely love them now and the original chrome ones are staying in the under build!

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Post by sviru » Sat 04 Oct, 2014 09:12

Can you post photos of your car? Can't find them.
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Re: Black Kidneys

Post by Southernboy » Sat 04 Oct, 2014 13:23

....do you actually like that style of grill on a Z3 ?...... :bad
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Re: Black Kidneys

Post by Cloz » Sat 04 Oct, 2014 13:29

Fot myself my next step will be to paint the chrome ring the same color than my car. Keeping the grill black. Of corse it depend on the color of your car. Mine is Montreal Blue so it will great :D

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Post by Mike Fishwick » Sat 04 Oct, 2014 15:12

It would look better with the grilles painted Montreal Blue, and the chrome surrounds left alone - if you do not like it, the grilles can always be painted black. It would be different, too - everyone and their dog have black grilles . .. a case of everyone trying to look different, and ending up looking the same.
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Re: Black Kidneys

Post by Kondor » Sat 04 Oct, 2014 17:44

Funny. Hadn't seen them in black in that style before this thread.

Then saw this link on Gumtree for them; http://www.gumtree.com/p/car-tuning-sty ... 1083529941

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Post by deni2s » Sat 04 Oct, 2014 18:40

sviru, here are few pics on a blue roadster:
http://www.salberk.de/product_info.php? ... s_id=21414

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Post by Rafolian » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 08:49

Have to agree about everyone trying to look different and all looking the same, I blame the Americans!!!

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Re: Black Kidneys

Post by Southernboy » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 09:08

Traditionally all the bonnet grills are chrome finish. IMO they should stay that way or colour coded to match the paintwork on the body. Black on black blue on blue etc... The same can be said for the outer door handles if one is going down the colour coded route. At least then we will have a variety of colours without the ubiquitous "black"... For some reason black seems to be considered "sporty"... every other woman wears black these days... does that make them "sporty" or just another sheep in the flock.
The chrome bonnet grills are definitive BMW styling which has endured since BMW first started producing cars and represents one of the signature identification traits of BMW as it does for most other brands. The attractive aspect of the chrome finish is the mirror effect it has on the adjacent body colour and the pronounced BMW identity. I say wear it loud and proud and put the black back in the closet where it can feel happy in the dark... :lol: :lol:
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Post by deni2s » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 10:33

Southernboy wrote:I say wear it loud and proud
Z3 has already 9 bmw badges on it, isn't that more than enough? And most of us already got rid of most of them (new wheels, z3m side gills). And sometimes when I see how some x5 looks or how some bmw drives I am not very proud of that bmw badge. In our country there is a big pre-justice against bmw owners as stupid and aggressive and there is no smoke without the fire, and friends are usually having fun of me, because I also own bmw. Of course, they are telling that me and my bmw are exceptions, and I also thingthat z3 is exception from typical bmw production line.

I think visually black kidneys make the car more aggressive, because that visually makes the car more wide by removing accent from the centre of the car.

Everyone and his dog is changing side mirrors and side gills to z3m versions too, but we all accept that, because that improves the overall look. And changing few things just shows everyone else that you care about your car and how it looks, it's not just transportation vehicle from A to B, and that is not bad even if everyone around you cares about the car looks too and does similar things.

That is just my point of view on these things...

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Post by Rafolian » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 11:32

Hear hear, well said that man! I'll stick with the black grills on a silver car for now and definitely forsake the Liberace chrome side gills.

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Post by Del » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 12:26

I think the chrome accessories are probably aimed more at the US market where they seem to like that look. I agree that the "black look" is more European and is contemporary/sporty - I prefer it myself. I've seen one firm that does carbon fibre effect front grills which I really like. :)

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Post by Del » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 12:37

Anyone tries these? Some things on ebay can be great others can fade to white after three weeks exposed to UV :D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CARBON-LO ... 19f0f9e885

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Post by g8jka » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 14:34

Del wrote:Anyone tries these? Some things on ebay can be great others can fade to white after three weeks exposed to UV :D
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-CARBON-LO ... 19f0f9e885
Yes :D

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Post by sviru » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 18:00

I usually don't like chrome stock kidneys. There are some exceptions... but very rare.
Still beside the blu one send by Denis I can't find any pictures of those bended ones.

I guess I'll have to purchase them and see it in real life. I have a hunch that this is gonna look good. Idk why :)
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Post by deni2s » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 19:18

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On the last picture stripes look more vertical than in chrome version and OP version.

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Post by sviru » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 21:58

Yea... this is another version I have never seen... very nice indeed!!!
Hm.... I have to search for it :). I found a few photos but very poor quality.
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Post by akirk » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 22:08

For me those - and the green German Z3 above with the Chrome version - don't work because of the thickness of the top horizontal - the originals are the same thickness all around...
then the angle - or something abou tthe grille bit doesn't work as well

what was a delicate but strong front has become very clumsy...

colour though - black or chrome, either works!

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Post by sviru » Sun 05 Oct, 2014 22:25

I like them on this Z3M... Suits very nice! Modern, aggressive. He has some matte ones... I found only "piano" type finish.
I'll buy them tommorow! :)
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Post by Cooper01 » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 09:42

The thick upper section of the kidneys look horrible {IMHO} in any colour. This is what they remind me of:

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Re: Black Kidneys

Post by siwilson » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 10:12

Look squashed. Not a good look IMO :( Like the shape of g8jka's ones, but maybe not CF for me.
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Post by Mike Fishwick » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 12:44

The 'later' type grilles look as if they had been squashed to fit to the bonnet apertures - horrid, and the chrome version is totally dreadful! I still prefer my body coloured grilles with chrome surrounds:

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If you are tempted, it is cheap enough to try, and just as cheap to paint the grilles matt black if you prefer the original style.
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Post by David » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 13:03

I'm thinking of buying some standard shaped chrome kidney grills, and spraying a couple of coats of tint spray and laquer on top of them.
Hopefully that will give it a 'gun-metal' type look ...and that'd look great IMO
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Post by akirk » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 15:29

like the red - but I think I would go red for the surround as well - for me body coloured = more subtle, therefore it should all be body coloured...

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Post by Mike Fishwick » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 16:07

Yes, I thought seriously about have the chrome surrounds in red too, but thought I would first try the grilles, which has grown on me - or maybe I have become too lazy to finish the job!
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Post by sviru » Mon 06 Oct, 2014 16:28

Hmmm. Personally I don't like when grill is matching body color. It looks odd. But how boring it would be if everyone would like the same things.
Those bednded kidneys are growing on me ;)
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Post by deni2s » Tue 07 Oct, 2014 09:04

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IMHO this looks awesome.

Check also these images for body color kidneys and nice looking angel eyes (maybe just because the photos are realy great):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bob_walla ... otostream/

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Post by sirius-c » Tue 28 Oct, 2014 15:12

It seems no one likes the top heavy chrome ones,
Each to their own I guess....I'm very happy with mine and prefer them to standard, I think they compliment the chrome angels

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Post by David » Tue 28 Oct, 2014 16:07

I think they do blend better with your chrome angel eyes, and the 'top heavy' chrome isn't the issue for me... It's the curved vertical lines of the grilles that I think sit awkwardly IMO.
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Post by sirius-c » Tue 28 Oct, 2014 16:11

David wrote:I think they do blend better with your chrome angel eyes, and the 'top heavy' chrome isn't the issue for me... It's the curved vertical lines of the grilles that I think sit awkwardly IMO.

I know what you mean, they kind of look like an old Rover grill too, I forget which model.
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Re: Black Kidneys

Post by t-tony » Wed 29 Oct, 2014 23:40

Grilles are a very emotive subject. I fitted some chrome ones on my car earlier this year, they didn't grow on me and many comments agreed with me so I sold them on. I do like the ones on the M coupe with body coloured surround and silver/grey grille slats. I know it's a personal thing but I think Mike's red ones look " tacky" like they belong on an old XR2i or something. Maybe on a darker colour car they might appeal. As I said each to their own.

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Re: Black Kidneys

Post by Del » Thu 30 Oct, 2014 09:56

What about silver v colour coded side gills? :D

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