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Steering wheel

Post by Alan W » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 09:09

Not sure if it was this forum but I seem to think it was, someone had their Z3 steering wheel re upholstered and the result was a nice thicker more comfortable rim (I think they also had red and blue stitching to incorporate the M colours)... if that was you can you please step forward and make yourself known,

Also, can anyone tell this clumsy oaf how difficult it is to remove / replace the steering wheel as I have visions of blowing myself up with the air bag!!!!
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Alan W » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 09:28

Wow.. found the post and the supplier.. the search facility on this site works a treat

Just need to know about the fitting / removal side of things...
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by ('_')Z3 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 09:47

Assuming it's the ///M style wheel
There are two torx head bolts at 3 o clock and 9 o clock on the back of the wheel, undo these and the airbag can be eased forward to reveal the connectors. Unplug these and place the airbag somewhere safe, this exposes the nut that holds the wheel in place.
Don't forget to disconnect your battery and leave for a minute before undoing anything, and remember you can't replace the battery connection whilst the airbag is disconnected for fear of the airbag light.

Jonttt's progress thread has some photos showing the wheel from when he replaced his wheel with the Raid.
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Mike123 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:16

It could be my post (bottom of page):

http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... =6&t=40636

I'm delighted with the service and the result. :)

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Alan W » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 11:56

Thanks guys, sounds fairly straightforward even for a numpty like me!!

This was the company I was thinking of http://royalsteeringwheels.com/

And this is the kind or rim I fancy

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by beerbelly » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 14:22

we had ours done excellent service 8-)

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Cabrioot » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 14:46

Hi did mine to. Perfect and stil happy.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Rafolian » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 15:24

And me!!

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 15:49

I have tried to seach for a further series of posts which showed more pictures off steering wheels on 'Zs'. No luck.

Anyone help please.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 16:19

Seen the knowledgebase so ok thanks.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 16:49

Anyone got a puc of a Royals wheel fitted to Z3 that I can look at.

thanks

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 16:53

Sorry 'picture'

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Alan W » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 17:11

This is a plain one with blue stitching.. I want to have the airtex sections either side..

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Koolflyer » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 17:18

http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... 37#p373337

There you go Alan, I had mine done by Jack last year. Extra padding the same as my 330 Msport. Had the blue and red stitching (even though my Z3 is just a normal 2.8 roadster) because it's mine and I like it. Jack is a top bloke and a pleasure to do business with. A year and a half down the road and its still as good as new :thumb:

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Mike123 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 17:22

Jack will do whatever you want - perforated sections is one of the standard options. He carries some stock items, but will make one to your spec if you are prepared to wait.

The cheapest option is an exchange wheel.

I drove to his address in Aylesbury, and he swapped the wheels in less than half an hour while I waited. 1st class job!

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Hoppo1979 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 17:58

How much does he charge? There's a guy on eBay knocking out re trimmed wheels for £110 but he's in Germany.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Mike123 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 18:18

They are about that price, dependant on final choice, plus £15 fitting.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Koolflyer » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 19:04

The cost Spring 2014 as follows: All leather is £105 plus £9.99 24hr recorded delivery. The Alcantra is £130 plus delivery.

Best to ring Jack 01296 709817 / 07894 209349
http://royalsteeringwheels.com/
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 19:30

Can someone please confirm that with a replacement to the original steering wheel, the girth/grip area is thicker. Looks that way but just want to confirm.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by petecossie » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 19:48

This the wheel that Jack did for me, completely changes the feel of the car, for the better!!
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Alan W » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 20:24

Nice... VERY nice!!!
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 20:34

Looks really really good.

What I would appreciate is a picture of a black leather wheel to see whether there is much contrast between the 'dinner plate' airbag cover which is shiny.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Koolflyer » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 20:37

You can have it as thick as you like. Look at my link above.
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Cabrioot » Sun 30 Nov, 2014 21:59

I have coverd the two parts left and right of the airbag centerpart with carbonn wrap folie.
Royal steeringwheel dit the wheel.
Looks more modern and get lot of positive reactions.
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by gookah » Mon 01 Dec, 2014 16:09

Royal Steering Wheels, extra padding, perforated/smooth leather and blue stitching.

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It makes a big difference,
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Mon 01 Dec, 2014 17:54

Just trying to gauge the difference in colour between you wheel and the round air bag/ horn cover. Is yours wheel the grey leather cover or black. Thanks

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by g8jka » Mon 01 Dec, 2014 18:57

I went for double padded, smooth nappa black leather top and bottom and perforated sides with silver stitching to match the interior.

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Post by bertiejaffa » Mon 01 Dec, 2014 19:23

I'll second all the positive comments
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by gookah » Mon 01 Dec, 2014 21:38

johnz3 wrote:Just trying to gauge the difference in colour between you wheel and the round air bag/ horn cover. Is yours wheel the grey leather cover or black. Thanks

mine is black leather
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Southernboy » Tue 02 Dec, 2014 09:51

The black in most Z3's is "Oregon black" which is considerably different to "Black"..... If you want a perfect black match, it will require the trimmer to match them by dyeing or sourcing a piece of OEM Oregon black leather.
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by XVar » Sun 07 Dec, 2014 18:00

Another +1 for Royal Steering Wheels, the guy really is a master of his craft, here's mine when I got it fitted - a year later and it's still as good as the day I got it too :)

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Mon 08 Dec, 2014 10:20

I see he also did the two sections eithyer side of the large horn button.

I like that

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by BladeRunner919 » Mon 08 Dec, 2014 12:00

johnz3 wrote:I see he also did the two sections eithyer side of the large horn button.

I like that
That's a different style of wheel to the one with the two tabs. If you look, the airbag covers are different shapes.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Fri 12 Dec, 2014 18:16

New wheel ordered so hope to go down there early New Year.

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Post by Dino D » Fri 12 Dec, 2014 21:34

XVar wrote:Another +1 for Royal Steering Wheels, the guy really is a master of his craft, here's mine when I got it fitted - a year later and it's still as good as the day I got it too :)

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That looks great. I didn't like that style of wheel much (in standard trim) but with what you have chosen there looks great.

Is the diameter on this wheel as big the 'M Sport' wheel (the ones with big centre)?

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Jonttt » Sun 14 Dec, 2014 23:02

There are four factors to consider with Z3 steering wheels which are:-

- the thickness, it's generally accepted the OEM wheel is too thin and a thicker wheel feels much better

- diameter, the OEM wheel is too large IMHO. A smaller diameter wheel makes the "driving" feel so much better, my preference is 340mm in a Z3, 320mm feels too much like a go cart. If you are 6ft+ it also means you don't catch you leg on agressive turns.

- fitment, the Z3 uses the E36 3 series slipring so E36 wheels can be fitted. You can adapt fitment and the slipring to fit later wheels but it's a PITA and see below

- version so SRS. The pre 04/99 "facelift" Z3s are single stage / deployment airbags (as per E36) but later are two stage airbag deployment. You can fit single or two stage airbags to a post 04/99 Z3 but you can't fit a twin stage airbag to a pre 04/99 Z3 (well you can but it won't work safely as designed)

So when you factor all those in the easiest solution is to fit a re trimmed thicker wheel to your Z3. Make sure if your exchanging it's like for like ie single or twin airbag depending if your airbag is pre or post 04/99. You can also fit an E36 wheel as the pics above but a post 04/99 Z3 will need to bridge a circuit with a resistor. This option will feel better in the hand but you have actually made the diameter worse :head:

The best solution is to fit a smaller diameter thicker wheel IMHO. This will be more expensive however but it really does transform the drive. Is I could only do one mod to a Z3 it would be fit a smaller steering wheel. Raid are the easiest option as you can buy an adaptor hub which means they are more or less plug and play ( post 04/99 Z3's need a wiring adaptor but you can make your own easily, raids are all single stage deployment).

See simple really, there is a fuller right up I did in the knowledge base some years ago.

Ps check you royal wheels when you get them back, some of the porsche guys have recently had problems with the stitching, apparently he has been using a different solution but may have been sorted out now :?:
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Fri 02 Jan, 2015 12:57

I am all but ready to buy a wheel from Royals. Have emailed them to find out details etc etc so almost ready to commit. Something however is holding me back and I think it is that I would like to actually sit in a Z and feel the wheel in my hands.

Know I could go down to Aylesbury and see and try something similar but given it is the best part of two hours away, it is a bit far.

Anyone local to Pitsea in Essex that has had a Royals wheel that I could drive over and see and feel what they are actually like.

Thanks

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by g8jka » Fri 02 Jan, 2015 15:15

Whichever you choose, you will certainly not be disappointed :D
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Lexybhoy » Fri 02 Jan, 2015 23:55

Hi Johnz3, my 'Royal' wheel is arriving middle of next week, double thickness, shorter perforated grip areas (like this years Mercs) and red stitching to match my Oregon interior. I'll let you know my first impressions next week if you haven't made a choice by then.
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sat 03 Jan, 2015 08:29

That would be good. Thanks.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by gIzzE » Sat 03 Jan, 2015 09:49

I have not been on for a while, missed this thread.

Well pleased with mine.

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The difference it makes to the overall feel of the car can not be expressed enough imho.



I bought a Jan 13 X3 last a couple of weeks back and that steering wheel now feels flimsy, so think I would have to get that done too.

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Buz007 » Thu 08 Jan, 2015 17:57

Just emailed Jack based on everyone's recommendations, big thanks yet again to Jontt who's write up on the removal of the wheel was spot on. Got it off in about 20mins. :nerd: hopefully I'll hear back pretty quick and I'll get it sent off :)
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by johnz3 » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 14:17

Hi lexybhoy.

Did you get you wheel and if so could you let me have a pic please.

Thanks

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Lexybhoy » Sun 11 Jan, 2015 16:24

johnz3 wrote:Hi lexybhoy.

Did you get you wheel and if so could you let me have a pic please.

Thanks
Hi John, pics below.

As it was......

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As it is now (sorry about the light, pretty dark here now)

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The workmanship really is first class.

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Perforated leather at the sides and soft Nappa leather top and bottom.

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As others have said, this has got to be one of the best mods you can do, for the cost alone never mind the short time it takes to swap them over. I went for double thickness and I would recomend others to do the same unless you have tiny hands :).
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by amancuso » Tue 27 Jan, 2015 00:50

I'm thinking about getting one of Royal's wheels. Only issue is the cost of sending my original wheel to the UK! Might just have him keep the deposit. It would be cheaper! :D
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Buz007 » Sat 02 May, 2015 14:08

Rekindling an old thread but just wanted to say thanks to some of the contributors on this thread, it's all very informative and helped me make my mind up on what to do with my steering wheel. I didn't fancy the rewiring for a raid wheel (although Jontts piece is very clear) so eventually went for a recover with Royal Steering Wheels....

Wether you choose to re-cover or replace its an absolute must. The difference is unbelievable in terms of feel and comfort, I went for double padded leather with side perforations. Extremely neat job and a bargain for a ton.

Thanks also to the instructions on how to remove and replace the wheel, doddle in the end

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Re: Steering wheel

Post by Lexybhoy » Sat 02 May, 2015 16:07

Looks superb.
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Re: Steering wheel

Post by siwilson » Wed 13 May, 2015 13:44

Another recommendation for Jack at Royal Steering Wheels. I had my ///M wheel re-covered a couple of weeks ago. I went for the the stock look, but with extra padding so it feels like my old E39 did.

First class service and workmanship. Its really nice to be able to wholeheartedly recommend a supplier!

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