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Post by littlefeller » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 18:07

consensus please, is this just a repair or is it a replacement? this happened on my way to work this morning by a stone from a skip lorry coming the other way
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Re: bugger

Post by lebigmec » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 18:41

Ouch! I would doubt if it's a repair job, as both chips have spread a little already & they're in your line of vision. Worth enquiring though..
Look on the bright side, although it's a PITA that your screen is cracked, it's better than the damage that would have been caused to paintwork if the stone had hit a body panel, & more easily repaired.

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Post by gookah » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 18:44

pay £60 excess and get a nice new screen.... you will get rid of 15 years of tiny chips. I was amazed at the difference when mine was done.
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Post by littlefeller » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 20:13

will I loose my 10 plus years of no claims :evil:

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Re: bugger

Post by BladeRunner919 » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 20:53

littlefeller wrote:will I loose my 10 plus years of no claims :evil:
Insurance companies don't count glass claims against NCD.

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Post by littlefeller » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 21:22

just got off the phone to swift cover, they say as long as its smaller than a £2 coin it can be repaired, so there coming around sat to fix it, we will see :lol:

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lightning
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Re: bugger

Post by lightning » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 22:13

I'll be surprised if they can repair that.

I bet when they press on the screen with the injector, the crack migrates right across the glass.

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Post by gookah » Thu 18 Jun, 2015 23:02

littlefeller wrote:will I loose my 10 plus years of no claims :evil:
I have just done it, no loss of NCB on a screen change, plus from repairs that I have seen they have never been invisible, they had a blur or distortion or both. Your chip looks directly in your line of sight so that would aggravate you every drive if it wasn't right.
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Re: bugger

Post by Alfie » Fri 19 Jun, 2015 00:57

I was told that if there were two chips close together, even if they were only small, they could not be repaired successfully.
Yours look too big and right in your line of sight.
Best to accidentally drop a hammer on it.... metaphorically speaking.

Also, beware of insurers who don't reduce your NCD for glass repair, but DO put up your premium next year because you've 'made a claim'.
This happened to me, so they lost my business.

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Post by Mike Fishwick » Fri 19 Jun, 2015 07:26

Your NCB will be OK - unless you change companies! We found this loophole when we moved to France, and a new winsdscreen on the Golf was suddenly remembered, and transformed into a claim.
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Post by BladeRunner919 » Fri 19 Jun, 2015 08:09

Mike Fishwick wrote:Your NCB will be OK - unless you change companies! We found this loophole when we moved to France, and a new winsdscreen on the Golf was suddenly remembered, and transformed into a claim.
I've changed companies after a windscreen claim and it hasn't made any difference (and I did declare it).

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Re: bugger

Post by Mike Fishwick » Fri 19 Jun, 2015 08:25

Maybe it depends on the company - it would be worthwhile finding their policy before claiming, as a new Z3 screen is not that expensive.
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Re: bugger

Post by Davejue1 » Fri 19 Jun, 2015 10:42

Your no claims will be unaffected on a glass claim although they may charge you an excess fee. I doubt if they can repair that being straight in the line of vision. Personally I wouldn't want a repair there as you will see it all the time and it would annoy the hell out of me.
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Post by maurice the martian » Fri 19 Jun, 2015 14:28

I've had 3 new screens in 4 yrs.an now this ones gone. Cheers Billz.
But gonna wait till after our eurotrip in a couple of weeks t get it changed.
So far not effected my no claims or excess.
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Post by Del » Fri 19 Jun, 2015 19:58

A MOT test divides the windscreen into sections. Immediately In front of the driver is the 'A-zone' – a 290mm wide band centred on the steering column and bounded top and bottom by the wiper swept area – visible damage in this region which is larger than 10mm across (slightly less than 5p coin) will normally result in a failure. :(

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Post by littlefeller » Sat 20 Jun, 2015 15:32

well he came, he saw, he says nope cant fix it, new screen for next weekend. so why did autoglass send him out in the first place, as soon as he saw where it was - no chance, I explained to the idiot on the phone where the chip/crack was but he insisted it could be fixed, numpty.

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Post by Zed Carer » Sun 21 Jun, 2015 20:09

littlefeller wrote:well he came, he saw, he says nope cant fix it, new screen for next weekend. so why did autoglass send him out in the first place, as soon as he saw where it was - no chance, I explained to the idiot on the phone where the chip/crack was but he insisted it could be fixed, numpty.
I had a badly cracked windscreen a few years ago and at the time my insurers were using Autoglass. Autoglass were going to fit a new screen and rubber surround and didn't appear to know that the Z3 windscreen is bonded to the frame as the windscreen frame is the primary rollover protection. As we have 3 cars on a multicar policy I wasn't that keen to have a claim so asked Autoglass for a price - £495 + VAT for fitting a windscreen and surround. My local BMW dealer fitted a new screen with the hot bonding and a new surround for £375 incl VAT!
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Post by gookah » Sun 21 Jun, 2015 22:16

Autoglass just did mine, even though it's bonded...I had to wait for a special technician though... no complaints and cost me just a £60 excess.
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Post by Rafolian » Mon 22 Jun, 2015 08:16

Had two new screens fitted by Autoglass here in Spain to my 944 S2 cabrio over a three year period and didn't even have to pay an excess, and no loss of ncb!

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Post by BladeRunner919 » Mon 22 Jun, 2015 08:20

All cars have bonded windscreens these days. You'd probably have to go back to the 70s or 80s to find a car made without a bonded screen.

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Post by littlefeller » Mon 22 Jun, 2015 18:51

I was reluctant to have mine changed, last time I had one changed, within 3-4years the frame around the windscreen rusted badly, im convinced it was the change of windscreen that started it and it didn't fit correctly.

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Re: bugger

Post by pingu » Sat 27 Jun, 2015 19:14

Alfie wrote:Luvin' the jazzy shirt btw.... :D
Is Littlefella really Captain Slow? :D

I'm waiting for a cracked screen so I can get a new VIN plate (sticky label). Mine was buggered when I pushed a tax disc holder (does anyone remember them?) behind the dashboard.
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Post by littlefeller » Sat 27 Jun, 2015 21:00

pingu wrote:
Alfie wrote:Luvin' the jazzy shirt btw.... :D
Is Littlefella really Captain Slow? :D

damn rumbled, well im abit stuck now Clarkson got sacked.
suppose I was kinda lucky really, when the screen kid came around he looked at the chips shaking his head then noticed that the screen was starting to delaminate in the bottom corner, I thought it was condensation bu7t it is still there so seems he was correct, result :lol:

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Post by littlefeller » Sun 28 Jun, 2015 09:13

delaminating screen - apparently. this has only appeared resently
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Post by littlefeller » Sun 28 Jun, 2015 13:16

all done, but now the poxy passenger wiper arm rubs the bonnet again :evil: the guy also said that if the frame was corroded under neath then they wouldn't be able to fit a new screen, but they wont know till the old screen is out :shock: wtf. what then :shock: worrying over nothing as there was no corrosion, it was just part of the terms and conditions from autoglass - phew.

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Post by littlefeller » Thu 22 Oct, 2015 19:18

yet another flipping cracked screen, getting tired of this now :(

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Re: bugger

Post by peter2b » Thu 22 Oct, 2015 20:11

Why is it you always get muck chips bird poo on the drivers side and very unlikely on the passenger's side
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Post by Hairyscreech » Thu 22 Oct, 2015 22:59

That does look like it was delamination, I had a brand new E30 screen, genuine BMW one as well that I had no where to store, foolishly tucked it behind the shed for 6 months knowing it would be save from damage there and thinking "hey it's glass, what could happen?".

Turns out delamination happens, one fecked screen. :head:

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Re: bugger

Post by lightning » Fri 23 Oct, 2015 08:03

BladeRunner919 wrote:All cars have bonded windscreens these days. You'd probably have to go back to the 70s or 80s to find a car made without a bonded screen.
The Land Rover Defender doesn't have a bonded screen and is still on sale (not for much longer though)

Is it a "car" though? Well, the Station Wagon is generally bought and used as a car. Until recently it was taxed as a "diesel car".

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Post by littlefeller » Fri 23 Oct, 2015 16:00

yes it had de- laminated, got a new one fitted, now just a couple of months on another chip but this time a crack is working its way accross the screen, its about 8 inches long

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Post by peter2b » Fri 23 Oct, 2015 19:32

When i was a sevices engineer with a company car they were always the Base model so if we had a chip or better 2 on a cold morning we use to pour boiling water onto the screen to join the chips together and grow, then take the car to our tame gagage who use to fit a i tinted laminated screen telling the motor pool that they had run out of the standard onesthat was back in the late 80s
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