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mrscalex
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Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by mrscalex » Sun 03 Apr, 2016 17:57

Had a bit of a mare and the boot lid won't open. I have recently changed the lid and played with the mechs but it was all working nicely.

I understand there is a trick to get into the boot but it's not published for obvious reasons. Would someone be able to PM me please? It's a 98 pre-facelift.

Also keen to understand why this may have happened and how to adjust to stop it happening again.

Thanks.
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2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by kjb1 » Sun 03 Apr, 2016 18:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVdESLYrXRU


listen to the vid, don't butcher it like he has, just simply drill hole where he says it is required, and through secondary skin once through first layer,

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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by mrscalex » Sun 03 Apr, 2016 18:35

Thanks. I actually saw that when searching.

I was naively hoping there was a non-invasive method.

Thanks again, for confirming the approach.
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by Southernboy » Mon 04 Apr, 2016 09:19

There is a non invasive method... it's kept "secret" to avoid the knowledge being used by potential baddies. If you PM Stu (one of the mods) he will give you the method of getting the boot open... :wink:
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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by mrscalex » Mon 04 Apr, 2016 12:20

Southernboy wrote:There is a non invasive method... it's kept "secret" to avoid the knowledge being used by potential baddies. If you PM Stu (one of the mods) he will give you the method of getting the boot open... :wink:
Thank you!
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by mrscalex » Sat 09 Apr, 2016 11:19

I've not heard back from Stu.

I would like to get into the boot this weekend. It has my INPA kit in and it's needed.

If anyone else knows the non-invasive method (ie not drilling behind the badge) please PM me. I know it's a closely guarded secret but I promise not to tell :)
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by Southernboy » Sat 09 Apr, 2016 11:25

Where's a mod when you need one... Perhaps try PM'ing the other mods, they may have a direct line to Stu, or may even know the entry method.
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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by Gazza » Sat 09 Apr, 2016 11:31

Southernboy wrote:Where's a mod when you need one... Perhaps try PM'ing the other mods, they may have a direct line to Stu, or may even know the entry method.

Always here :D

There isn't a non invasive way.

In future if anyone needs to contact a Mod, try myself or Robert T, we are here several times during the day.
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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by Southernboy » Sat 09 Apr, 2016 11:51

That's bad news Gazza....
I take it you've tried pressing down on the boot lid whilst operating the remote ?? it may be the latch is just under too much pressure to release. Alternately, try a wooden wedge on one and the other side of the lid whilst operating the remote and also lifting it gently with a wedge on each side of the lock which is roughly in the center of the boot lid above the number plate, whilst operating the remote. If your boot isn't a remote operation, do all the above and use the key to operate the lock.
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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by Gazza » Sat 09 Apr, 2016 11:56

It isn't a latch problem, it's a linkage problem.

Minor invasion is the only way.
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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by Bin » Sun 10 Apr, 2016 09:59

mrscalex wrote:I would like to get into the boot this weekend. It has my INPA kit in and it's needed.
What's INPA kit?

I wish I could help here, I had an issue with mine not allowing the car to unlock without immediately relocking when I first acquired it, but that was an adjustment issue on the lock mechanism as it was triggering the central locking. I don't suppose you can access the two torx screws that hold it in place?

Fiat had this nailed with the X1/9: there was an emergency boot release pull located in the engine bay directly in front (mid-engine). I'm now wondering if I should install a similar device in the Z....

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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by mrscalex » Sun 10 Apr, 2016 10:55

INPA kit just means my old laptop with the software on it and the connecting cable to do vehicle diagnostics.

I had to drill the boot behind the badge in the end. 2 min job and works a treat.

The problem was because I hadn't rotated the plastic end clip on the push button mechanism. There is a slot and the rod sits in this. It gets pushed round when you take it off and moves out of alignment. I put mine back not taking this in and it was sitting on the rim of the clip and not in it.

Very simple changing boot lid and mechanism but you just have to be careful putting it back as intended otherwise the price you pay is a stiff one.

That said it won't latch now! The opposite problem. It was working perfectly before this episode and nothing else has moved.
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by kjb1 » Sun 10 Apr, 2016 11:02

have you tried fully operating the lock on the boot in a similar fashion to when you operate lock on a door whilst open


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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by Bin » Sat 16 Apr, 2016 11:16

Yep, it was that same plastic retainer that caused my locking issue. Luckily I have a few spares kicking around from my old Range Rover which I am busy building a whole new bespoke body for. Fitted a treat and so far works fine.

Sorry you had drill through but at least the badge covers it and should the problem ever recur, you can sort it!

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Re: Help! Boot lid won't open

Post by mrscalex » Sat 16 Apr, 2016 19:37

I sorted the latching problem today. When I swapped the boot lids I never went back and tightened the bolts properly. The lid had slipped fractionally. I aligned it again and all was well.
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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