Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

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superhuba
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Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by superhuba » Fri 22 Jul, 2016 00:18

Hi!
Does anybody know if the rear bumper from facelift roadster (all facelift are wide) will fit the widebody prefacelift roadster?
Thanks for info :wink:

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Re: Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by deni2s » Fri 22 Jul, 2016 11:53

I think will not fit. Fenders are different.

mrscalex
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Re: Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by mrscalex » Fri 22 Jul, 2016 12:17

I'm not so sure they aren't the same. The metal bumper part inside is certainly the same.

Realoem suggests they are the same part. Hopefully a more learned forum member will be along in a minute to confirm as I'm curious myself.
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Re: Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by Mugs » Fri 22 Jul, 2016 15:37

I think the rear wings are different shapes on the wheel arch flares so I would say not.... But I may be wrong.

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Robert T
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Re: Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by Robert T » Fri 22 Jul, 2016 15:43

I've been hunting through old threads on this subject, looking for a comparison photo, but it seems to have fallen off the interweb. When I get chance, I will make up another one and host it on here so that it can be used for reference.

The general consensus is that the pre-facelift widebody (2.8) and ///M rear bumpers are interchangeable, but the facelift is not. I suspect it will be down to the shape of the light clusters and to fit these you need to change the rear wings and the boot lid, but as the inner wings are also different, the rear wings may well not fit anyway.

In contrast the front-end stayed the same and you can interchange front bumpers, with the only caveat being that the pre-facelift 1.9 had sidelights in the headlights rather than in the bumper.

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mrscalex
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Re: Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by mrscalex » Fri 22 Jul, 2016 17:29

Possibly this one.

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realoem suggests they are the same part (unless I'm misreading it). The rear wing itself may have a different top profile but I'm not convinced it's a different fit around the bumper itself. The photos suggest it may be but I think the perspectives may be slightly different.

I'm only examining the evidence here. I clearly don't know from first hand experience.
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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Re: Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by spurs fan in a coupe » Sat 23 Jul, 2016 06:27

we expres: " He did hear the bells ringing, but doesnt know where where the clapper hangs".

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Re: Facelift rear bumper swap to the prefacelift widebody?

Post by mrscalex » Sat 23 Jul, 2016 11:41

Sorry. Still none the wiser Andy!

What I do know is the bumper to rear wing plastic rivet system is different between pre facelift narrow body and facelift. That's from experience as the Knowledgebase article on here is due to this strictly speaking facelift only although all other mountings are the same type.

I have what I think is all 3 potential bumper types so I will line them up and check when I have a moment. And see if I can write a definitive position.
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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