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Irish M Roadster

Post by Riccardog » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 00:12

Hello All, I'm a newb on here, recently joined as I am looking at potentially getting an M Roadster. Haven't actually been able to see any in the flesh as 3 that I have contacted sold this week (spring coming?).

At the lower end of the budget there is the ex-Welsh now Irish Estoril M
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/ ... an/2119010

I called the guy today, he seemed genuine and willing to discuss the car. Its not the most pristine M out there but it is the cheapest, he says its priced low to attract UK buyers as in Ireland road tax is very high for it (new legilsation taking effect). The following emerged from our talk

- Car was exported in 2004 and sold by Cameron Cars of Dublin (Porsche / performance car specialist)
- Up to 04 it had a full BMW main dealer SH, 60k miles (car now on 91k miles)
- There are old MOTs and NCTs (Irish equivalent) but no real service history as such since 2004
- Its had 3 owners since 2004
- The car has been serviced in recent years by local garages, I assume things like Vanos oil change and valve clearances have not been verified
- Roof lets a few drops in from px side when being washed
- Px window a bit lazy
- Front lights a bit cloudy

So, at £5k, would you?

Thanks for any feedback!

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by G2JRP » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 07:33

If you do the usual checks, boot floor etc, sound cheap to me.

I would say just make sure it is the 'car' you want colour spec, mileage. As you might wish you waited.


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Post by chill4x4saph » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 08:56

I must admit when I saw it for sale at that price I thought about ringing him myself...., its a very cheap car if the condition isn't to bad. you'd have to go and see it but the miles wouldn't put me off if I wanted one to use regularly.

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Post by Althulas » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 13:53

As long as there's proof of services been carried out by local garage nothing like a bunch of receipts to back up claims. I've found out the expensive way that a neglected history can have consequences.
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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Riccardog » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 17:02

I like the colour and spec (no hardtop a plus for me, most other things such as aircon etc seem to be standard anyways), though the mileage is high for what I'm used to.

I need to find out a bit more on the history, its the main thing putting me off. He is supposed to email me some pics, lets see what comes through. Will keep you posted!

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Gazza » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 19:17

I'd buy it
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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by freds dad » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 19:33

Do you have to pay any taxes if importing from Ireland?

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Post by Gazza » Sun 09 Mar, 2014 19:58

freds dad wrote:Do you have to pay any taxes if importing from Ireland?

No, it's EU.

Just £55 to register at DVLA
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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Riccardog » Sat 15 Mar, 2014 14:21

Well, the vendor has emailed me some pictures but they aren't that great, plus I had requested some of the engine and boot area (welds) and haven't heard anything back since Tuesday. Its not looking like he wants the hassle of a long distance sale...

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Post by bertiejaffa » Sat 15 Mar, 2014 18:35

It is St. Patricks day on Monday - he's probably started early and too plastered to see the keyboard :cheers
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Post by Sidshark » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 10:42

Hi everybody, I'm new to the forum.. Just wanted to say hello...

Right then... Down to business..

Bit the Bullet, paid £62 Ryanair flight Leeds/Bradford to Dublin. Got picked up by the owner Adam.

Drove over to his beautiful house in Kikdare.

Z3 M was parked outside stone cold.

Bodywork 7/10
Interior 7/10

Vanos purred like a kitten, drove superbly well. Dead straight. New discs, pads, all round. 4 new tyres. New rear suspension.

Body work very good, nice and straight for 15 year old car.

Irish hpi confirmed mileage correct, lots of paper work.

Deal done £4500 GPB

Bargain of the decade!!!!

I very pleased. Now tucked away in my garage in Huddersfield.

Thanks

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by das930 » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 11:32

Well done a man after my own heart
No messing no talking just getting out there and doing
Good luck with car you really can't go wrong at that money an awful lot of car for run of the meal car money
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Post by the_youth » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 11:39

I want pics! Well done though.



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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by chill4x4saph » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 17:11

very well done!!!, absolute bargain!!!!

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Sidshark » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 17:54

Hi All,

Thanks for all your kind comments.

I'm really really pleased with the purchase.

He'd had loads of calls, but no one willing to go across the pond to view.

I spoke to him once and that was it! As soon as I got off phone I booked my flight, Thursday evening and was there in Dublin for 8am the next morning. Just go for it.. I've always taken chances. Plus he sounded and is a very genuine guy with Irish road tax for the Z at 1850Euro! Ouch! Otherwise he would never sell.

Big folder full of recipes and nct (mot) the Irish nct is far stringent than a uk mot. The later one passed in January this year. Irish hpi confirmed all mots & ncts and mileage is dead on at 90977.

It's drives superbly well, the rumble of the evo engine is sublime. Gear change it firm and precise..

I'll get some pictures up shortly.

Thanks Sidshark

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Riccardog » Sun 23 Mar, 2014 01:36

Well done on the purchase!

I was one of the people that called Adam but, to be fair, he didn't inspire much confidence. He didn't mention about the receipts or anything like that. Also, being a Z3 newb, I didn't quite feel confident on taking a flight to see my first one! (only earlier today I sat in one for thr first time and its kind of small for me).

You gave it 7/10, seems about fair from his description on the phone, I figured I'm more after a 9/10 car.

Still, sounds like great fun hopping over there to buy it!

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Post by Murf » Sun 23 Mar, 2014 19:17

£4,500 for a 7/10 condition M Roadster is a steal quite frankly...I usually keep an eye on the market and one in that described condition would be typically be a couple of £k more depending on time of year more so buyer did well :D It's these kind of prices that make me think there is no way I'd sell up, what the heck could you replace it with that kind of money :|

If you are after a near minter have you contacted the chap on here who is selling his Estoril - Liam I think?

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Post by chill4x4saph » Sun 23 Mar, 2014 19:59

Murf wrote:£4,500 for a 7/10 condition M Roadster is a steal quite frankly...I usually keep an eye on the market and one in that described condition would be typically be a couple of £k more depending on time of year more so buyer did well :D It's these kind of prices that make me think there is no way I'd sell up, what the heck could you replace it with that kind of money :|
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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by janijoeli » Sun 23 Mar, 2014 20:55

I think £5200 or £5400 has been the cheapest Z3M I've seen advertised anywhere in the past year or so when I've been (occassionally) following the prices. £4500 and not requiring major work is a steal. Sidshark, I wholeheartedly congratulate you on your purchase of what is possibly UK's cheapest working M Roadster. :)

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Post by Sidshark » Sun 23 Mar, 2014 21:18

Hi All, in all honesty I reckon £400-£500 pounds will make the cars bodywork excellent, I'd say a close 10/10.

Just minor stone chips to front bumper and bonnet, 2 small scuffs to bumper corner & small mark on rear bumper.

Here are some pics while at Dublin port waiting to come home. (Sorry about the quality)

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Post by Sidshark » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 19:09

Ok Then,

Just took the Zed in for a UK Mot. Passed with no advisories.

While it was up on the ramp, I took the advantage of having a good lunch underneath, safe to say that the Zed is as rock solid underneath as it is above!

Now onto getting it registered to drive on the UK roads...

Thanks

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Post by Riccardog » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 19:41

Excellent news!

I'm now kicking myself for having let this one go! (not that I fit in Z3s... :bawl: )

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Bi11 » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 20:25

Well done. Hope you enjoy.
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Post by chill4x4saph » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 22:16

Riccardog wrote:Excellent news!

I'm now kicking myself for having let this one go!
me too!!!!!

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Post by Sidshark » Wed 26 Mar, 2014 19:07

Hi All, here are a list of the Options the Zed has, don't know if any of them stand out? Thoughts?



S260A Side airbag for driver/passenger

S302A Alarm system

S354A Green windscreen, green shade band

S391A Softtop, dark blue

S395A Rollover protection system

S398A Softtop, electromech. semiautom.

S428A Warning triangle and first aid kit
S441A Smoker package

S502A Headlight cleaning system

S530A Air conditioning

S669A Radio BMW Business RDS

S674A Hi-Fi System Harman Kardon

S694A BMW 6 CD changer

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by TR4man » Thu 27 Mar, 2014 17:42

Sidshark wrote: While it was up on the ramp, I took the advantage of having a good lunch underneath, safe to say that the Zed is as rock solid underneath as it is above!
Really?? :o

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Post by Sidshark » Sun 30 Mar, 2014 18:15

Since the car has been Mot'd. I'm still awaiting the dvla form to re-register the car for uk roads again. So it's frustrating having the car parked in my garage and not being able to stretch its legs, legally.

That said, the weather has been good today, so I decide to pull the Zed out for a quick cheeky run...

Bloody hell!! It's fast... It pulls viciously in every gear, the vanos kicks in very hard, and the exhaust starts to howl at the top end!

Needless to say, the short spin turned into a bit of an afternoon driver.

Very impressed with the Zed. I've been luck enough to own Quite a few M cars over the years, and this one just hits the sweet spot every time... :D

Thanks ...

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Sidshark » Sat 03 May, 2014 20:43

Hi All.

The Z3 M Roadster is now for sale.

Didn't want to sell, after all the hassle (fun) of bringing it over.

However I am now getting a 993 Turbo shortly.

Thanks

(It's on eBay)

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Re: Irish M Roadster

Post by Wolverine_1999 » Tue 06 May, 2014 10:07

So thats where this car ended up!

I was contemplating it for a while flying over and buying it myself.. but didnt bite the bullet.

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