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Tilly
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Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Sat 25 Nov, 2017 21:37

Hard decision time.

Finding it harder to get in the car with roof up, almost 70, so I am thinking of getting something easier to fit in. Had the M for over 17 years and if I take the very hard decision to sell I would like some advice from members. The car was built in Feb 22 1997 as a LHD German demonstrator. It has 155750 Km on clock and a complete service record from new, either with main agents or specialist BMW independents with a record of every bill paid in its history and every MOT.
Just had Inspection 1 service and MOT( no advisories) at a cost of just over £1100. New dash trim, A/c switch and reverse light switch fitted during service. Only OEM parts have ever been fitted to the car. All major things have been done see my write up on this forum ( viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41946&p=400179#p400179 ) of mechanical restoration work carried out in 2015 at a cost of over £6000. The body work has not been touched so there are blemishes. Comes with BMW boot rack, luggage case and squashy case which fits in the hard case.
Sorry I cannot think how to post current pictures since I do not wish to pay for Photobucket.

Any advice about selling would be appreciated.

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Gazza » Sat 25 Nov, 2017 23:33

You could use Flickr or similar to upload pics
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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Tue 28 Nov, 2017 22:01

Taken earlier this yearhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/152172483 ... ed-public/

Now I can post I have some more which I can load if necessary. Decided the car will have to go. Time unfortunately to move on and it is a terrible decision to make. I cannot continue to defy age. Going to get a slightly bigger car which is auto with a fixed roof. We will keep the other Z for my wife can still get in hers. Any ideas would really be welcome.

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by therealdb1 » Tue 28 Nov, 2017 23:03

I was in a similar situation to you recently.
Starting to struggle with entrances and exits from the Z. Added to that it needed a fair amount of tidying up to make it how I would have liked it so I cut my losses and headed for comfort. A 335i convertible auto with flappy paddles. Ok it is not an M3 but more understated and civilised and I am not regreting the decision so far, it's as snug as a coupe with the lid up and wind in the hair with the roof in the boot. Many more creature comforts too although the voice contol appears to have difficulty understanding my London accent at times so perhaps I should speak to it in German :D

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 07:37

Our first BMW in 1988 was a 325 convertible. We kept it for almost 14 years and only sold it because, having the Zeds, we never used it. It is still going strong and I occasionally have seen it. It was a brilliant car. We have almost decided on the replacement but are now just deciding on colour and spec. We will keep the touring which has the four seats and a large luggage space and my wife's Z3 for top down motoring. I will have another car that I can enjoy which is mid way between both . It doesn't have the raw thrill of the M, very few cars do, but it will be more fitting for my creaking frame.

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Gazza » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 07:55

therealdb1 wrote:
Tue 28 Nov, 2017 23:03
I was in a similar situation to you recently.
Starting to struggle with entrances and exits from the Z. Added to that it needed a fair amount of tidying up to make it how I would have liked it so I cut my losses and headed for comfort. A 335i convertible auto with flappy paddles. Ok it is not an M3 but more understated and civilised and I am not regreting the decision so far, it's as snug as a coupe with the lid up and wind in the hair with the roof in the boot. Many more creature comforts too although the voice contol appears to have difficulty understanding my London accent at times so perhaps I should speak to it in German :D
We have a 335i vert, best thing I did was to replace the runflats with normal tyres, transformed the ride.
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Re: Making hard decision

Post by therealdb1 » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 09:31

So I have heard on the dedicated forum but fortunately the previous owner had already done the ditching and fitted proper tyres so I have only experienced the car without runflats.
I have to say I am more than happy with how it rides but then it only has 34,000 miles on the clock the poor old Z had 140,000!

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by PaulI » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 16:17

Hi Tilly, can you let me know about your Z3M when the time comes, I could well be in the market for a LHD example! I should really be encouraging you to keep it, I still have my 92 325i convertible plus my Z3!

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 18:09

Hi there,

It is for sale. I have every invoice from new, all old MOT's and 2 current MOT's. The garage in October carried out a new one by mistake but the old one doesn't expire until Feb 18. I am meeting Barney Halse from Classic Heroes tomorrow. He has looked after the car for over 17 years, apart from when he moved from Munich Legends to set up his new company and during that time BMW main agent Chandlers looked after the car. It has just had its inspection 1 service plus a few minor things done which the chief mechanic spotted. As you may know major work was done in 2015 and a full photographic account given on this site. I have all the pics. The car is probably the oldest in the UK and one of the first built in the world.On the US worldwide register three earlier ones are listed but I do not know if they have survived.
As to price, I will discuss with Barney tomorrow and let you know the outcome. It is very hard selling the car. I opened the garage doors this morning and saw the two Zeds parked. I really am not looking forward to the day I see it go but I do want it to go to a good new home and still give pleasure like it has given me over the years.

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Paulro » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 19:01

Hi Tilly
I am feeling your pain.
If the other Paul isn't interested could you let me know.
Paul

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 20:01

Will do

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 20:30

Can I say one thing to anybody interested. This car is not a garage queen. It has been driven on roads but not on any race tracks. Its has done 158000Km. I use the revs once the car its thoroughly warm. But its is regularly serviced and anything needing replacing is replaced with OEM parts. I have not touched the outer body work. Over the 17 years many things have been done including underside and sills have been stripped and waxolled. Boot welds strenghened, Cylinder head replaced damaged by main agent, new vanos and cam gears, new gearbox because noisy layshaft bearing, new diff bearings because slight noise. New alternato, suspension bushes replaced, most of the engine sensors gaskets and seals have been replaced and the list goes on and on. The trim around the oil pressure dial had a crack. It has just been replaced at a cost for the part of £127.49 ex VAT. So loved but driven has been my moto and the car has responded. Its a good one but it needs to be driven.

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Brian H » Wed 29 Nov, 2017 23:17

Hi Tilly,

I have been a member on here for a few years and have thoroughly enjoyed reading your experiences with your Z3M, all I can say if anyone is genuinely interested you will get a car from a true enthusiast and a car which has had no expense spared.

Good luck with the sale Tilly.

Regards

Brian

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Thu 30 Nov, 2017 07:15

Thanks Brian,

Luckily my wife will still have her Zed so I can still remain a member of this great group.

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Fri 01 Dec, 2017 16:32

I have decided to let Barney Halse at Classic Heroes handle the sale of my car. He will get the car within the next few days and then tell me what extra needs to be done in his opinion before the car is sold. Once he and I have agreed an asking price, he will sell the car on my behalf.

I really do not want to be directly involved with the selling as I would find it too upsetting. In this way the car goes and I won't see it again. If anybody is interested please contact Barney directly.

My new task will be to clear out the garage so that the new car which I have bought will fit and hopefully this will partially take my mind off the loss. My wife has also said I can drive her car whenever I want open top fun.

Finally I would like to thank the members of this group for all the help and advice they have given me over the years and I hope that I can still rely on that assistance for the remaining family Zed.

PS Not been thinking straight in my first post I mistyped the Km numbers. The exact mileage reading is 157,574 Km

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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 15:09

can you let me know about your Z3M when the time comes, I could well be in the market for a LHD example! I should really be encouraging you to keep it, I still have my 92 325i convertible plus my Z3!
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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 15:10

I am feeling your pain.
If the other Paul isn't interested could you let me know.
Paul
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Re: Making hard decision

Post by Tilly » Mon 04 Dec, 2017 21:28

Feeling a bit overwhelmed today. Four people have already applied to buy the car. Although barney has not got the car to evaluate what cosmetic work needs doing and therefore he has not set a selling price or even advertised it,it seems the car is in great demand in Europe. There has even been an enquiry from the USA. Although I am sad that she is going, I am happy that the car will end up in a good home and like the car there are some great Zed enthusiasts around the world who have been very supportive. Still I am not looking forward to next week when I drive the car for the last time , just hoping it is a good day so I can have the roof down, heated seats on and hear the roar of the engine. The new car may be more sensible for me but it won't have the passion.

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