non run flats
non run flats
I got my Goodyear Eagle F1's fitted today and I wanted to report my experience.
The ride is a million times better than with the run flat tyres, but I'm not so sure about the handling... I'm not sure if I just need to get used to softer walled tyres but the car does seem to feel a bit wallowy around corners now compared to the RFT's.
Is this normal? Do they just need "breaking in"? Do I just need to get used to them?
The car feels a lot different now... on the whole I like it, but it's not the amazing experience others have reported...
The ride is a million times better than with the run flat tyres, but I'm not so sure about the handling... I'm not sure if I just need to get used to softer walled tyres but the car does seem to feel a bit wallowy around corners now compared to the RFT's.
Is this normal? Do they just need "breaking in"? Do I just need to get used to them?
The car feels a lot different now... on the whole I like it, but it's not the amazing experience others have reported...
- Justin Time
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give it time. they need to be broken in. i've had a set of Eagle F1 GSD3's fitted today too, and i love the grip they are giving so far, and not even broken in. i know what you mean bout the wallowyness, just thought it was the suspension
good tyres, nontheless
good tyres, nontheless
BMW Z3 2.0L Velvet Blue Individual Edition
Yeah, may be the suspension, I drive a 3.0 with M suspension, not sure if that should be hard or what?? As long as it's not just me then I guess it's ok.justin_time wrote:give it time. they need to be broken in. i've had a set of Eagle F1 GSD3's fitted today too, and i love the grip they are giving so far, and not even broken in. i know what you mean bout the wallowyness, just thought it was the suspension
good tyres, nontheless
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sp3ctre wrote:I got my Goodyear Eagle F1's fitted today and I wanted to report my experience.
The ride is a million times better than with the run flat tyres, but I'm not so sure about the handling... I'm not sure if I just need to get used to softer walled tyres but the car does seem to feel a bit wallowy around corners now compared to the RFT's.
Is this normal? Do they just need "breaking in"? Do I just need to get used to them?
The car feels a lot different now... on the whole I like it, but it's not the amazing experience others have reported...
I noticed the same thing when i first switched,seemed to want to wiggle a bit in the turn,almost like it's trying to slide out.
After some getting used to,and watching the turns,and a little change in driving habits,that will change.......she will stick
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Eagle F1s are overhyped. They aren't stickier than the oem bridgestone re050a run flats on dry cement and asphalt roads. They are noisy tires, especially during cornering. Other conventional tires give a softer ride as well than run flats. Only thing i like about it is the price and hopefully a good wet weather traction which i haven't tested.sp3ctre wrote:I got my Goodyear Eagle F1's fitted today and I wanted to report my experience.
The ride is a million times better than with the run flat tyres, but I'm not so sure about the handling... I'm not sure if I just need to get used to softer walled tyres but the car does seem to feel a bit wallowy around corners now compared to the RFT's.
Is this normal? Do they just need "breaking in"? Do I just need to get used to them?
The car feels a lot different now... on the whole I like it, but it's not the amazing experience others have reported...
They are good tires, but not great as overly hyped by message boards.
1996 Black Z3 1.9
2003 Black Z4 2.5
2003 Black Z4 2.5
There is no way in hell that you can compare these awful runflats and the ride you get with them to the softer feel and better handling of the Goodyear Eagles.
I changed mine last October and since then in both the wet and dry they are probably about one million times better that the dreaded Run Flats.
Although it's understandable why the run flats are a good idea it's a completely different car with high quality tyres whether it's Goodyear or another make of tyre.
I changed mine last October and since then in both the wet and dry they are probably about one million times better that the dreaded Run Flats.
Although it's understandable why the run flats are a good idea it's a completely different car with high quality tyres whether it's Goodyear or another make of tyre.
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So how can you comment on F1s being over-hyped if you haven't tried them in the wet??melbs wrote:Eagle F1s are overhyped. They aren't stickier than the oem bridgestone re050a run flats on dry cement and asphalt roads. They are noisy tires, especially during cornering. Other conventional tires give a softer ride as well than run flats. Only thing i like about it is the price and hopefully a good wet weather traction which i haven't tested.
They are good tires, but not great as overly hyped by message boards.
In God We Trust - everyone else gets PNC'd.
- whiteminks
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Hi Guys,
I don't have a Z4 but I have to say changing to the F1's has made my Z3 a million times better at handling.
The first 200 miles were slighly insecure but they have been superb since they were scrubbed in
Drive more , grip better!
Cheers P
I don't have a Z4 but I have to say changing to the F1's has made my Z3 a million times better at handling.
The first 200 miles were slighly insecure but they have been superb since they were scrubbed in
Drive more , grip better!
Cheers P
big cheesy wrote:'I nearly cacked my trolleys till I quickly tuned in'. Yorkshire Cruise 2008.
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you missed out on the first part of my paragraph, over hyped in traction in dry weather and comfort.RobBruce wrote:So how can you comment on F1s being over-hyped if you haven't tried them in the wet??
1996 Black Z3 1.9
2003 Black Z4 2.5
2003 Black Z4 2.5
- tetchmeister
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done both
i had the opportunity to change to non-runflats and definately improved for a softer and less jittery ride, tramiling improved too and i didnt have to use the sport button as much!
However the softer walls also mean slightly softer handling.
I have recently changed back to runflats and there is a definite improvement in sharpness.
Horses for courses really, both have good and bad points (I just preferred not having to carry a compressor and tyreweld glue).
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However the softer walls also mean slightly softer handling.
I have recently changed back to runflats and there is a definite improvement in sharpness.
Horses for courses really, both have good and bad points (I just preferred not having to carry a compressor and tyreweld glue).
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Re: non run flats
I can comment on F1s being overhyped across the board. They were VERY disappointing on my M5.RobBruce wrote:So how can you comment on F1s being over-hyped if you haven't tried them in the wet??melbs wrote:Eagle F1s are overhyped. They aren't stickier than the oem bridgestone re050a run flats on dry cement and asphalt roads. They are noisy tires, especially during cornering. Other conventional tires give a softer ride as well than run flats. Only thing i like about it is the price and hopefully a good wet weather traction which i haven't tested.
They are good tires, but not great as overly hyped by message boards.
Toyo Proxes T1-R FTW.
Ciao,
Spokey
Spokey
jackal on PH wrote:i love your profile... an endless pornographic paroxysm of the letters BMW
do you actually like driving at all or are cars to you just a manifestation of some sort of pathological mother complex ?
200 miles to scrub in???!!whiteminks wrote:The first 200 miles were slighly insecure but they have been superb since they were scrubbed in
C-
Whiteminks, you must try harder!
Ciao,
Spokey
Spokey
jackal on PH wrote:i love your profile... an endless pornographic paroxysm of the letters BMW
do you actually like driving at all or are cars to you just a manifestation of some sort of pathological mother complex ?
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Was that before you did the 'Learn How To Cruise' day?? HFCspokey wrote:I can comment on F1s being overhyped across the board. They were VERY disappointing on my M5.
In God We Trust - everyone else gets PNC'd.
spokey, you're the same person from z4um right? that sig is familiar
what tires did you change to?
thinking of getting bridgestone re050a pole positions, based from reviews the wet handling is WAY better than the run flat version or the regular re050a.
anyone tried the re01r?
what tires did you change to?
thinking of getting bridgestone re050a pole positions, based from reviews the wet handling is WAY better than the run flat version or the regular re050a.
anyone tried the re01r?
1996 Black Z3 1.9
2003 Black Z4 2.5
2003 Black Z4 2.5
Tis me, and I changed to Toyo Proxes T1-R. They are fantastic and they're cheap(er), too.melbs wrote:what tires did you change to?
Ciao,
Spokey
Spokey
jackal on PH wrote:i love your profile... an endless pornographic paroxysm of the letters BMW
do you actually like driving at all or are cars to you just a manifestation of some sort of pathological mother complex ?
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RobBruce wrote:Was that before you did the 'Learn How To Cruise' day?? HFC
Before and after. BGA.
Ciao,
Spokey
Spokey
jackal on PH wrote:i love your profile... an endless pornographic paroxysm of the letters BMW
do you actually like driving at all or are cars to you just a manifestation of some sort of pathological mother complex ?
I don't think they're available in Europe.takedown8 wrote:I've been reading a lot of good things about the Yokohama ADVAN Neova. Anyone have any experience with these?
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Spokey
Spokey
jackal on PH wrote:i love your profile... an endless pornographic paroxysm of the letters BMW
do you actually like driving at all or are cars to you just a manifestation of some sort of pathological mother complex ?
I went to see a friend at the weekend and let him drive my car... he recons it feels like it has a puncture (yes, I've checked the pressures) and he thinks that the alignment is out... the front wheels want to go in a different direction to the rear ones. I must say that it was VERY wobbly on the motorway, felt like every little adjustment to the steering would make it very jumpy.... need to find somewhere that will do 4 wheel alignment now
I did have the spring replaced under warranty a few weeks ago, that's when it started to be honest... problem is I have changed tyres since then... if I take it to the dealer and tell them they've shafted the alignment when replacing the springs I'll bet they blame the tyres
I did have the spring replaced under warranty a few weeks ago, that's when it started to be honest... problem is I have changed tyres since then... if I take it to the dealer and tell them they've shafted the alignment when replacing the springs I'll bet they blame the tyres
I have Toyo 888R's on OZ Ultraleggeras for the track - they provide amazing levels of grip - so much so that it is almost impossible to get the back end to start wagging.
OK, I wouldnt like to try them in standing water, nor expect to get any more than 3000 miles from a set - but then again they are just for trackdays.
My road tyres (runflats) are more heavily worn at the front than rear, and am I right to assume all 4 need to be changed in 1 go?
OK, I wouldnt like to try them in standing water, nor expect to get any more than 3000 miles from a set - but then again they are just for trackdays.
My road tyres (runflats) are more heavily worn at the front than rear, and am I right to assume all 4 need to be changed in 1 go?
- Justin Time
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no, it only matters to make sure you change both tyres on the axle in question or this will lead to change in grip and handling. the only concern all round is if you have different tyres, this will have an adverse effect. try and keep to a single type of tyredodgyken wrote:My road tyres (runflats) are more heavily worn at the front than rear, and am I right to assume all 4 need to be changed in 1 go?
BMW Z3 2.0L Velvet Blue Individual Edition
I have never owned a rear wheel drive vehicle that did this. rears are always the first to go on mine, and very very heavily worn compared to the frontsdodgyken wrote:My road tyres (runflats) are more heavily worn at the front than rear, and am I right to assume all 4 need to be changed in 1 go?
1996 Black Z3 1.9
2003 Black Z4 2.5
2003 Black Z4 2.5