Finally found a fanstastic wax after 17 years of searching!

SpunkyM · Post by **SpunkyM** » Thu 22 May, 2008 22:15

It's this...

Zymol Cleaner Wax

I have two shelves full of waxes, polishes, clear coats, clay bars. Now i feel like the the entire range can be replaced by this one product - it just does everything I want from a wax. I have never used a product so effective, easy to use, nice smelling

, and just so all round brilliant as this stuff. And believe me, i have tried a lot.

Swirl marks gone, hazing gone, fantastic wet look shine on my black Z. To say I'm impressed would be an understatement.

I bought a nice little electric polisher of Ebay as well which makes applying this stuff a dream. Saying that, it's not bad too put on by hand either, just a bit more arm aching.

Available from Halfrauds. It really has set a new standard.

BimBeema · Post by **BimBeema** » Thu 22 May, 2008 22:41

Yes, I have this too, a great product but I have to mention though that this is a wax cleaner, i.e. it removes old layers of wax along with swirl marks, etc. Ideally after applying this you'd want to apply a fresh layer of wax on top to seal it, or at least that's how I understand it should be!

Kiwi · Post by **Kiwi** » Thu 22 May, 2008 23:16

BimBeema wrote:Yes, I have this too, a great product but I have to mention though that this is a wax cleaner, i.e. it removes old layers of wax along with swirl marks, etc. Ideally after applying this you'd want to apply a fresh layer of wax on top to seal it, or at least that's how I understand it should be!

Like you say, a cleaner wax is exactly that - cleans and leaves a wax protection. A lot of detailing people turn their noses up because it is an all in one type product. But who cares about the rules if you're getting good results. I would be interested though in hearing how durable the finish is - typically a cleaner wax by itself will not be long lasting.

BimBeema · Post by **BimBeema** » Fri 23 May, 2008 08:32

First time I used it on its own and the results were fantastic but like you say not long lasting, I now use a wax on top for longer lasting result, but it does mean double the effort!

z head · Post by **z head** » Fri 23 May, 2008 12:58

this might sound like an uber stoopid question, but here goes, after having done the scratch-X or whatever, to get rid of the swirl marks, old polish, wax etc...... What goes on first? Polish or Wax? Depending on whether your an Autoglym Addict or a Meguiars Maestro some say wax first followed by polish and some vice versa.

Justin Time · Post by **Justin Time** » Fri 23 May, 2008 13:33

Polish first, wax second.

Kind of negates the point of putting on polish if you wax first, you want the polish to get to the paint, and if you wax first, how will it accomplish that?

z head · Post by **z head** » Fri 23 May, 2008 13:46

Justin Time wrote:Polish first, wax second.

Kind of negates the point of putting on polish if you wax first, you want the polish to get to the paint, and if you wax first, how will it accomplish that?

OK OK so I'm stoopid, no need to rub it in !

Justin Time · Post by **Justin Time** » Fri 23 May, 2008 13:56

No, that wasn't my intention, and I don't think you are. Was just trying to rationalise the point

z head · Post by **z head** » Fri 23 May, 2008 13:58

No probs Justin Time I'm cool.

SpunkyM · Post by **SpunkyM** » Fri 23 May, 2008 16:57

no need to rub it in

...no pun intended I presume!

The point about the Zymol cleaner wax is that you can pretty much get rid of all those steps (scratch X, polish, wax) in one operation. The Zymol stuff contains 12% Carnauba & 3% Bees Wax so it should leave a decent layer of protection. I think my results may have been compounded by using an electric polisher, but I've had polishers in the past and it still never got results like using the Zymol.

Robin · Post by **Robin** » Fri 23 May, 2008 18:45

I use pure carnuba. Takes more effort to apply but protects for months. Keeps the dirt & grease from actually getting on the paintwork.
http://harlywax.com/HarlyWax/

mich · Post by **mich** » Sat 24 May, 2008 04:25

Unless you are a perfectionist why would you want to polish a clear coat of lacquer assuming that it is in good condition? [If you are down to the basic paint then that would be different]
otherwise a wax should be all that is needed providing that it is applied frequently

.

estocks · Post by **estocks** » Sat 24 May, 2008 11:16

Since when did "cleaning" a car get renamed to "detailing"?

SpunkyM · Post by **SpunkyM** » Sat 24 May, 2008 11:23

mich wrote:Unless you are a perfectionist why would you want to polish a clear coat of lacquer? .

I suppose if a good quality wax was applied frequently from new, you would be right, but it doesn't take long for a layer of contaminants to build up on the laquer and these can key very well to the surface which means a good polish is the only way to get back to the original lustre.

Add in the fact that the clear coat is easily scratched with fine marks (especially for those that wash with a sponge or even the dreaded car wash) that can result in swirl marks, all detract from that smooth glass-like appearance we all desire. A cleaner wax is a clever way of doing both operations of a fine polish and a protective wax in one application. I'm converted.

mich · Post by **mich** » Sat 24 May, 2008 21:39

Hi SpunkyM
Yes, being down under I was forgetting contamination etc, and I suppose it builds up over time, at least that is one expense that I do not have.

Justin Time · Post by **Justin Time** » Sat 24 May, 2008 22:12

estocks wrote:Since when did "cleaning" a car get renamed to "detailing"?

It hasn't, detailing incorporates cleaning along with other steps useful in protecting the clean finish.

Whilst the idea of an "all in one" wax/polish/cleaner, especially coming from Zymol, is alluring (think of the time saved) I'd want something that would last a bit longer.

Spunky, how long does the wax last, from your experience?

nuts · Post by **nuts** » Mon 26 May, 2008 17:37

After 6 hours of hard graft I've just completed the 3 stage Meguiars kit. The car looks fantastic. Really impressed with the kit but my arm feels like it's going to fall off.

Next time I'll buy a buffer machine I think!

Nuts

Justin Time · Post by **Justin Time** » Mon 26 May, 2008 17:48

if you are interested in detailing, and want a bit more car care than what is provided with meguiars 3 step kit, why not have a look at Detailing World.

They'll be able to point in you in the right direction when it comes to buffers

SpunkyM · Post by **SpunkyM** » Tue 27 May, 2008 12:54

Spunky, how long does the wax last, from your experience?

...well it's far too early to say as it's only been on a week. We had a downpour here this morning and it's still beading beautifully but 1 week is not much of an achievement! I'll update as time goes on and let you know.

I've also got some other posh stuff from America to try soon as well. See thread here... http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=