Falken 912s all round now-thoughts
Falken 912s all round now-thoughts
Finally replaced the rears with 912s a couple of weeks ago and now have them all round. I`m very happy with them and they are supurb on damp roads. I had F1s on the back before and the ASC light used to do a lot of winking if you accelerated hard on a damp road. Given it the beens out of a roundabout in pouring rain and no probs. Fronts take you round a corner as fast as I dare with no feeling that your going to lose it. I`m impressed, great tyes for the money.
Hi Frank. Everyone that has put 912s on has been pleased with them and some of us that had tramlining problems have had an improvement or cure useing them yet not many people even consider fitting them. I wonder if people like the racey "sexy" tread pattern of 512s and other brands with a similar tread pattern.
I have posted my experiences of 3 different cars and 4 different makes of directional tyres(including 452s) fitted on the front (which didn't exist when the Zed and the other 2 cars were produced).
I agree with you that many people simply go by the look of the tyre tread and this is borne out by my local tyre dealer.
I agree with you that many people simply go by the look of the tyre tread and this is borne out by my local tyre dealer.
Tread pattern has never mattered to me. I have 452's on the rear of mine, and purely on the recommendation of the ZRoadster members who rave about them.
I also have 912s on the front of my diesel Cooper, so can speak from experience of both. The Cooper will from now on stay with 912s and the Z3 will stay with 452s
I'm not sure what the issue is here. I have tyres which work well on my car, and you have tyres which work well on your car.
Who is right? Well it appears we both are! Surely thats a win for everyone?
Gary
I also have 912s on the front of my diesel Cooper, so can speak from experience of both. The Cooper will from now on stay with 912s and the Z3 will stay with 452s
I'm not sure what the issue is here. I have tyres which work well on my car, and you have tyres which work well on your car.
Who is right? Well it appears we both are! Surely thats a win for everyone?
Gary
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I agree that is good point and I will admit to having asymmetric Continental Sports on the front. My wheels are all the same width, and at some stage they will now be switched front to rear to see whether it makes any difference (just purely out of interest)
They won't last forever, and will need changing at some stage, most likely for 452's. They are as Falken describe them on their website their "Flagship high performance tyre", so seem to be a sensible choice.
My only other experience of bad tyres on my Z3 was the shocking selection of tyres it came with. Of the 4 tyres, all were budget and from 3 different manufacturers. But I had no problem with handling at all on those.
It's one of the things that has surprised me from coming on this forum is the amount of people who suffer tram lining. Just not anything I have experienced, even with the 18's on.
Some Zeds seem more prone to it than others, and reading this forum there are so many different solutions for the same problem.
Still, this is an interesting debate for a Saturday evening
They won't last forever, and will need changing at some stage, most likely for 452's. They are as Falken describe them on their website their "Flagship high performance tyre", so seem to be a sensible choice.
My only other experience of bad tyres on my Z3 was the shocking selection of tyres it came with. Of the 4 tyres, all were budget and from 3 different manufacturers. But I had no problem with handling at all on those.
It's one of the things that has surprised me from coming on this forum is the amount of people who suffer tram lining. Just not anything I have experienced, even with the 18's on.
Some Zeds seem more prone to it than others, and reading this forum there are so many different solutions for the same problem.
Still, this is an interesting debate for a Saturday evening
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It's a topic that keeps resurfacing.
I have had F1s,FK452s,Michelin Pilot Sport and 912s on the front of my Zed.
The tramlining was very pronounced with the F1s,slightly improved with the 452s,cured with the Michelins and 912s.The bonuses with the 912s are cost and quietness.
The cars was fitted with strut brace,butt strut and poly bushes for the whole time.
I reckon that if anyone has tramlining problems and the car will pass an MoT in respect of bushes and ball joints,then the problem is down to the tyres on the front,as many have found to be the case.
I have had F1s,FK452s,Michelin Pilot Sport and 912s on the front of my Zed.
The tramlining was very pronounced with the F1s,slightly improved with the 452s,cured with the Michelins and 912s.The bonuses with the 912s are cost and quietness.
The cars was fitted with strut brace,butt strut and poly bushes for the whole time.
I reckon that if anyone has tramlining problems and the car will pass an MoT in respect of bushes and ball joints,then the problem is down to the tyres on the front,as many have found to be the case.
Well i can answer for you... i have Falken 452s on the rear and 912s on the front of my 18s... a very good set up....
The bonus of having 452s on the rear is you can flip them round on the alloys when they are half worn as they always wear more on the inside due to the camber of the rears.... but you cant do this with 912s as they have an outside/inside wall....
The bonus of having 452s on the rear is you can flip them round on the alloys when they are half worn as they always wear more on the inside due to the camber of the rears.... but you cant do this with 912s as they have an outside/inside wall....
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Guys, I have budgets, and i have struts all round and new OEM bushes all round, no tramlining, not worried about handling as drive within the limits of the conditions, and even budgets have to meet strict minimum requirements, learned this when purchasing tyres for Jag, the compounds on budgets and the branded were the same........................same with Chocolate Biscuits and Tomato Ketchup, Mcvities and Heinz all make the budget brand white labels for the super markets.
The Brand itself carries a premium.....................
The Brand itself carries a premium.....................
912's and 452's are good value for money however the latter seem to wear a bit quicker I find, and not as good in colder weather. 912's seem to be a good compromise but the Hankook ventus evo's have a pretty good write up for the same money and vredestein sessanta's are excellent but appear to going up in price.