Repaired Diff Mount (with modification)

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Repaired Diff Mount (with modification)

Postby pingu » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 21:27

There were 10 spot welds that needed to be repaired and the crossmember was torn.

See this...



The repair included the addition of a small brace to join the right of the diff mount "ears". The dimensions are below...

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The fitted brace is shown here...

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The gap between the diff "ears" is 35.5mm and the thickness of the diff mount is 33.5mm, so I shall be using a spacer to avoid preloading the rear (more flexible) "ear".

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Postby Titan » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 23:18

Looks like somebody's been a bit busy :!:
Don't apologise for the video - it really demonstrates what the diff mount/boot weld problem is and one method (DIY) of solving it.
Congrats Pingu and thanks for taking the time and effort to share it :thumb:
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Postby Gazza » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 23:39

Well done Gary, when did you buy an ///M ? or has my head been in the sand ?
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Postby Deano1712 » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 00:26

Its blue!

Good job Gary. Good video too - you should be on tv :wink:
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Postby pingu » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 01:38

Deano1712 wrote:you should be on tv :wink:


Last time I tried it I fell off
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Postby offyourmarks » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 09:48

Nice little vids there pingu

Just out of interest, were you able to 'spot' the damage from within the boot or was the damage only noticable from the underside?

Also - is it much of a job to remove the diff? I have a customer who is a welder and i'm tempted to have him seam weld it as a preventative measure - If the diff comes out/goes back easily enough....

Many thanks

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Postby Fender2004 » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 11:43

Thanks Pingu for two great videos, as they say picture (or video) saves a thousand words.

I'll know what to look out for now :D
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Postby pingu » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 22:49

offyourmarks wrote:Nice little vids there pingu

Just out of interest, were you able to 'spot' the damage from within the boot or was the damage only noticable from the underside?

Also - is it much of a job to remove the diff? I have a customer who is a welder and i'm tempted to have him seam weld it as a preventative measure - If the diff comes out/goes back easily enough....

Many thanks

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The major damage, in my opinion, was the ripping crossmember. Catastrophy would probably not occur until many more spot welds failed than the ten I found. However, I suspect the crossmember crack only had to double in length for the diff to rip its mount off.

Only about half of the failed spot welds were visible from the boot and the crossmember crack was only visible with the diff removed.


Warning - the diff is heavy. It weighs 40kg.

To get the diff off...

1. Raise and support rear of car. Both wheels to be free to rotate, but supported at the normal running height.
2. Remove rear exhaust pipes.
3. Remove heat shields.
4. Mark propshaft and diff input flange (Tippex).
5. Gearbox in neutral and remove propshaft nuts (16mm A/F). Rotate the prop by rotating the wheels.
6. Disconnect half shafts (E-12) and tie up out of the way.
7. Support weight of diff at the rear on a trolley jack.
8. Undo the diff mount nut (19mm A/F) and jack up the rear of the diff until the bolt can be removed.
9. Don't remove bolts before readjusting jack. Lower the rear of the diff (but continue to support it) until you can access the four bolts (16mm [loose fit] or 5/8" [snug fit] A/F) holding the diff onto the beam axle. The diff mount on the rear of the diff will be just below the bottom of the diff mount on the car.
10. Readjust the trolley jack so the diff is supported at the balance point. The jack should also be raised as high as possible, so it can be lowered as the diff is removed.
11. Make sure the diff is properly supported and remove the bolts. They are very tightly torqued and can only be accessed with a ring spanner.
12. You want to try to withdraw the diff from the propshaft in a straight line at the inclined angle, so use a "pull back and jack down" technique.


To refit the diff...

1. Support the diff on the trolley jack and using the "push forward and jack up" technique engage the diff flange on the propshaft studs, remembering to align the Tippex'd mark. It's extremely unlikely that the alignment marks are necessary, but sometimes running gear is dynamically balanced and it's good practice.
2. Put all four propshaft nuts on a couple of threads, but no more.
3. Without raising the car or twisting the beam axle, jack the diff and align the right top bolt hole. I used an angled mirror. Screw the bolt in the hole all the way, then back it off so the spacer can freely turn.
4. Align the diff so the top left bolt can be screwed in all the way. Again, back off so the spacer can turn freely.
5. You will probably have to reposition the jack to raise the front of the diff so the front two bolts can be screwed in tight. Again, back off so the spacers can turn freely.
6. Raise the rear of the diff so the diff mount bolt can be inserted from the rear. I'm planning to put a spacer between the rear lug and the diff mount to reduce the prestress on the rear lug.
7. With the diff correctly supported, tighten all the nuts and bolts to the correct torques.
8. Refit the half shafts, heat shields and exhausts.
9. Lower car to the ground.
10. Wheel spin off driveway :D .
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Postby offyourmarks » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 05:54

Thanks Pingu for taking the time to provide such a detailed answer - much appreciated.

I have a scissor lift that raises vehicles using the jacking pads/mounts, therefore all four wheels hang down at full extention. You mention wheels needing to be at normal running height - is this critical?

Thanks again

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Postby pingu » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 13:03

offyourmarks wrote:Thanks Pingu for taking the time to provide such a detailed answer - much appreciated.

I have a scissor lift that raises vehicles using the jacking pads/mounts, therefore all four wheels hang down at full extention. You mention wheels needing to be at normal running height - is this critical?

Thanks again

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For taking the half shafts off = Probably not

For putting the halfshafts back on = Yes, they will need to be extended as well as aligned - very difficult to do.

Raise your scissor jack, then lower the vehicle so the lower arms are supported on axle stands as well. When the weight starts to come off the rear jacking points, raise the scissor jack so you are supporting the vehicle on the four jacking points and the lower arms.

A point to note about lifting vehicles on jacking points is that the jacking point on some vehicles is only designed to allow the wheel to be changed. To test if the vehicle is adequately supported - can you open and close the doors without the doors jamming. I think you will be OK on a Z3, as they are pretty solid cars.
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Postby offyourmarks » Sun 30 Jan, 2011 17:26

Thanks again Pingu - some great information there and moe than enough to get me through. Many thanks :lol:
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