Anyone see my Z for sale on ebay over the last week?...

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phb10186
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Anyone see my Z for sale on ebay over the last week?...

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I was just testing the market out, as I am thinking of getting shot of the Z, as I have been given a C200 Merc to use for as long as I need, and I want a motorbike. I don't use it now that I have a different job, and to be honest, I can't justify the space it takes up, let alone the luxury of it.

Anyway, the market is crap as we all know, because I had it on ebay with the hard top included etc etc for £5650.... although I would have taken less.

Anyway, it failed to sell, but I had loads of hits on the lot, so that only means one thing.... people are looking, but havn't got the cash.

I wonder what it is worth, bear in mind the hard top has to add a grand to anyone who knows how much of a PITA it is to get one fitted and colour matched.

It's got 92K on it, but its a steady 10,000 a year or there abouts, and the MOT emissions test was amazingly low on the CO and lambda, so I can only assume that the engine is fine.

When I look at it, its a silly amount of car for the money.... but then isn;t everything now... except for a Prius, Smart Roadster or Nissan Figaro (sereously... WHY?)

I'll have another shot in the spring, when the cabrio market picks up again, maybe then I can buy that grandfather clock I have always wanted.
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Post by Torres09 »

Its Champagne car for Lemnade money IMHO.

Problem is just like you say there are lots of people looking but no one is spending :!: :!:

I think your on the money with the hard top thrown in but 6 weeks from xmas and a credit crisis I think your wise to wait till the sun comes out and people have bought the sprogs a wii etc they might stop looking and start buying :)

Good Luck with the sale
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Post by TitanTim »

Really think your going to be struggling to sell to be honest unless you give it away, its a sad reflection of the car market, I would definitely wait until the spring or at least until after x-mas, how come your driving the Merc? do you prefer it to the Zed? just seems a bit of a shame to sell after you worked hard to get it sorted.

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tbh - I'd definitely be interested in the Hardtop and fitting kit if you'd like to sell those seperatly (Montreal blue -right?) ? drop me a pm if interested :)
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Post by Alex L »

Is the car market actually going to pick up. Surely after Christmas people are going to have even less cash and still paying off their Xmas debts in the Spring.

I can't wait til the New Year to pick up a bargain
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Alex L wrote:Is the car market actually going to pick up. Surely after Christmas people are going to have even less cash and still paying off their Xmas debts in the Spring.

I can't wait til the New Year to pick up a bargain
Who can tell, my guess is that it won't pick up for a good while, and the only cars to pick up will be the roadster/ sports car sector. That said, you can always sell anything for a price, if you want to, it's just getting the price low enough to get a bite.

I personally think that big cars are a thing of the past, especially used ones that are 10 or so years old.

If I only did a couple of 1000 miles a year I would hedge my bets and buy a Lexus SC430 (always wanted one).

The problem I have is that I am going back to uni next year, and won't be able to justify the expence - so I'll have to sell at a big loss if needs be, or leave it on the drive on a SORN... but I'm not gonna do that.

The Merc C200 is my dad's 2nd car, and as dull as it may be, it's pretty good at what it does, just no fun at all - but thats life. It actually uses about the same fuel as the Z2.8, but thats another story... it's an auto too.

It's either that or the Z, but I feel that it will be the Z.

I'm not as sentimental about these things as a lot of people on this forum... to me it's just a car, and when your needs change, as they invariably do, just move on.

I wouldn'd sell the hard top separately.... i'll loose the money I get for it when I sell the Z on, so no point at all, and I'll just have a pain-to-do job thrown in... sorry. I had about 5 ebay PM's asking the same thing....

Maybe I should sell the Hard top for £5K with the car thrown in! That might be a good strategy!

In the long term it will be something like a diesel small Jap hatchback and a bike.

I went to see a Honda Hornet 600 on the weekend, at least bikes have stayed the same - or got better- there are some sereously nice ones out there.... all the nice cars have been confined to previous decades.

I remember always wanting a Honda CRX VTI from the late 80's..... the silver and black two-tone paintwork one. Everyone else wanted a Golf GTI, but I always liked the Honda.... and when I was in a position to get one they were either really stupid money, or 90% rust. That's the only regret I have!

The last good cars out there were the ones from the late 90's I think - the Z3 is better than the z$ as it's nowhere near as complicated, and its got all E36 mechanicals on it that are really cheap now... that's why I got the Z3 instead of the E46 330D I was also considering at the time.....
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Post by Alex L »

I hope you prove me wrong but I don't see any cars picking up. Now is a great time to buy as hopefully I'll find out in the New Year. Looking forward to selling the S2000 now as it owes me a fair amount since March in terms of depreciation and at the time I bought it really cheap (£3k under market value)

Uber-barges are the best buy at the moment, would love an AMG CL-Class or M5 but running costs could be a problem doing 25-30,000 miles a year. So for the short term I'll stick with my oil burning company car which only costs me vast amounts of tax and buy another weekend toy after Christmas.
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Hi Guys, first post as I have only owned my Z3 for a couple of months but I thought id let you know what I paid for it to help you judge the market.

Prices for anything with an engine more than 1600cc are awful. I picked up my Z3 3.0 sport, silver, full leather, 32K on an 02 plate for less than £7300. The chap who was selling it wanted more than £2k more than that, but on eBay’s best offer option I was easily is best offer, and he needed to sell. My Z is mint but needs an Inspection 1, which I reckon will cost £500 but can’t wait for spring next year.

I can’t believe I have so much car for so little dosh, but I plan on this being a long relationship so I’m not bothered to much want it will be worth going forward. This time last year I almost bought an 330Msport coupe on an 04 for £14.5k and at the time I thought that was a bargain.

The only thing that is bad about this car is the VED prices from next April onwards, another reason why prices are so low.

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astropa wrote:Hi Guys, first post as I have only owned my Z3 for a couple of months but I thought id let you know what I paid for it to help you judge the market.

Prices for anything with an engine more than 1600cc are awful. I picked up my Z3 3.0 sport, silver, full leather, 32K on an 02 plate for less than £7300. The chap who was selling it wanted more than £2k more than that, but on eBay’s best offer option I was easily is best offer, and he needed to sell. My Z is mint but needs an Inspection 1, which I reckon will cost £500 but can’t wait for spring next year.

I can’t believe I have so much car for so little dosh, but I plan on this being a long relationship so I’m not bothered to much want it will be worth going forward. This time last year I almost bought an 330Msport coupe on an 04 for £14.5k and at the time I thought that was a bargain.

The only thing that is bad about this car is the VED prices from next April onwards, another reason why prices are so low.

Paul
I get shouted at on this forum by various people for speaking my mind.... byt hey here it goes again......

I think you'll get hammered on Tax in the very near futute on that. The government is already talking about doubling high emission veicle TAX, so I think you could end up shelling out over £500 a year soon.

For that reason, a pre-march 2001 car is probably a safer bet, but then it would appear that you have got a very good deal.

Assuming that pre 2001 car tax doesn't get the 'Labour Make-over' (doubled + £200) then pre-2001 would be a third of the VED per year.

I don't think that anyone with a big engine car is safe from the government - they are a load of self-preservationist socialist bastards.

I am really tempted by an S2000 or Civic Type-R (previous model), but same old story unless I go for a pre 2001 S2000.

It would also appear that a Z3 2.8/3.0 is worth about the same as a Smart Roadster - does that make any sense?
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phb10186 wrote:It would also appear that a Z3 2.8/3.0 is worth about the same as a Smart Roadster - does that make any sense?
I have a smile on my face more of the time from my Smart car.

To get the same smile in the Z3, I have to drive at twice the speed.

Smart @ 30mph = :D
Z3 @ 60mph = :D

but, Smart @ 80mph = :shock:
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Re: Anyone see my Z for sale on ebay over the last week?...

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phb10186 wrote:I was just testing the market out, as I am thinking of getting shot of the Z, as I have been given a C200 Merc to use for as long as I need, and I want a motorbike. I don't use it now that I have a different job, and to be honest, I can't justify the space it takes up, let alone the luxury of it.

Anyway, the market is crap as we all know, because I had it on ebay with the hard top included etc etc for £5650.... although I would have taken less.

Anyway, it failed to sell, but I had loads of hits on the lot, so that only means one thing.... people are looking, but havn't got the cash.

I wonder what it is worth, bear in mind the hard top has to add a grand to anyone who knows how much of a PITA it is to get one fitted and colour matched.

It's got 92K on it, but its a steady 10,000 a year or there abouts, and the MOT emissions test was amazingly low on the CO and lambda, so I can only assume that the engine is fine.

When I look at it, its a silly amount of car for the money.... but then isn;t everything now... except for a Prius, Smart Roadster or Nissan Figaro (sereously... WHY?)

I'll have another shot in the spring, when the cabrio market picks up again, maybe then I can buy that grandfather clock I have always wanted.

Fancy a swap for a 1993 Toyota Supra twin turbo, 89,000 miles, 19" deep dish alloys.
Worth a try :D
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If you want to sell then cheaper is the way to go. IMO you are better off selling the hardtop, fitting it and any other accessory you have seperately. That way you could recoup almost 1000 from other ales and use that to help ease the pain of dropping the car price by 1000. Its a bit like asset striping, but needs must.

Heck, I bet a lot of cars are worth more and easier to sell if sold as parts.

Sad times!
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The only thing that is bad about this car is the VED prices from next April onwards, another reason why prices are so low.
..looks like the government have already done a u-turn on that. For the time being at least.

See here.... http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=
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SpunkyM wrote:
The only thing that is bad about this car is the VED prices from next April onwards, another reason why prices are so low.
..looks like the government have already done a u-turn on that. For the time being at least.

See here.... http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=
My car is pre march 2001, that's something at least.

I don't need a P/X, and I would swallow some loss even with the hard top as I get value from it every time I use the car in the winter. The car goes with the hard top.... that's the intention. The difference in price will not mean much to me, as I will be taking a hit anyway.

I just went to a BCA auction today.....

'53' 2003 Z4 3.0 with 36,000 miles went for £7,350, thats well below 8 grand even with the comission added after.

Star buys IMHO:

1999 Lexus GS300 63,000 miles and full spec inc. the 18" alloys and navigation..... £1900.

2003 Audi A6 Avant 2.5 TDI Quatro 180 with 23,000 miles and full spec... £7300

2001 Aston Martin Vantage 5.9 V12 auto with 36,000 miles £19,000

2005 BMW 330i estate 36,000 miles full spec... £10,200

2005 Audi A8 3.0 TDI 52,000 miles.... £10, 300

2004 Golf MK5 2.0 FSI GT, 45,000 miles £4800

1995 Rover 416i 48,000 miles.... £150

I had a day off today and I thought it would be a good chance to see current values.

I remember buying my Z thinking I would never loose that much on it.... well I was wrong about that one! Oh well, at least I put all my money safely in a reputable Icelandic bank.......

Amazing how the market has changed I sold my '99 Prelude for £600 more than I paid for it last year after owning it for a year. Don't think I will be able to replicate that with the Z!
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