Tiff Needel driving skills in a ZM
Tiff Needel driving skills in a ZM
Something for the weekend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7JQvCEOHXo
Hope this isn't a repost?!
James
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7JQvCEOHXo
Hope this isn't a repost?!
James
Re: Tiff Needel driving skills in a ZM
Yep, it is.Earpy wrote:Hope this isn't a repost?!
But who cares....?
That's always a great watch.
A.
Re: Tiff Needel driving skills in a ZM
It's a fair cop, I'd have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky repost police...grrrAlfie wrote:Yep, it is.Earpy wrote:Hope this isn't a repost?!
But who cares....?
That's always a great watch.
A.
Burning Rubber
1st time for me too, great to watch as long as it's someone elses car. Too much hard earned cash invested.
Did you see the 360 degree spin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZUy8sLA ... ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZUy8sLA ... ed&search=
Yeh you must! It's great fun to watch! But not as good as this truely mesmorising lap of the 'ring in an M3 GTR. Phenominal !!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3185836618
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3185836618
Sapphire Black 02 S54 M Roadster
Re: Skill?
I'm 51 & I think the 360 degree spin is entertaining & looks like great fun.Mike Fishwick wrote:Off I go again - It does not take much driving skill to do a 360 degree spin, just a lack of mechanical sympathy for someone else's car and tyres!
Why do otherwise (fairly) sane people think such antics are good to watch? I must be showing my age or something . . .
Yet I'm normally a grumpy old man, but about different things such as mass immigration, the tribalism that goes with religion, benefit scroungers, Tony Blair, Tony Blair's inane grin, giggly news readers, loud intrusive background music, rap music, fundie Americans, body piercing, big brother type TV programmes, youngsters with thumping car stereos & chav exausts..... all these things pi55 me off, but the 360 degree spin doesn't. In fact if I had access to a runway I'd have a go myself.
Oh well we're all different I guess.
Well after Tiff has ragged the ass off it, I sure as hell wouldn't want to own it. I wonder if any of its other owners knew about its TV debut? DVLA says it's taxed till December, so someone its still driving round in it!Boysie wrote:As a matter of interest it was his //M Roadster
RAC for W619MCF wrote:Date manufactured 01 March 2000
Number of previous owners 4
Last owner change 30 December 2005
Arctic Silver '99 Z3 1.9 & Black '59 Frogeye 1275cc
It's Easy
There is no magic in doing a 360 degree spin - all you need is a surplus of torque over grip, a heavy right foot, and no sympathy for your car. In my distant youth a lot of us managed it without anyone hailing us as good drivers - quite the reverse! How times have changed.
All one needed was a Triumph TR2 or Ausin-Healey Sprite (better still, an Austin-Healey 3000!) which when coupled with an overdose of testosterone and a lack of discretion would perform such antics without even being asked!
I always thought that the object of fast driving was to go round corners while avoiding spinning, rather than make a cult out of what is really failure.
Perhaps that's why I see little merit in these cheap tricks, as while you are spinning pointlessly the next car will be up the road and away. I suppose in such hopelessly restricted places such as Singapore (home of 'Drifting') and the USA, spinning is about all that immature youths can do, but even in the UK there must still be better things to do with your car.
All one needed was a Triumph TR2 or Ausin-Healey Sprite (better still, an Austin-Healey 3000!) which when coupled with an overdose of testosterone and a lack of discretion would perform such antics without even being asked!
I always thought that the object of fast driving was to go round corners while avoiding spinning, rather than make a cult out of what is really failure.
Perhaps that's why I see little merit in these cheap tricks, as while you are spinning pointlessly the next car will be up the road and away. I suppose in such hopelessly restricted places such as Singapore (home of 'Drifting') and the USA, spinning is about all that immature youths can do, but even in the UK there must still be better things to do with your car.
Re: It's Easy
The grumpy old man's back. Who said it was magic ?Mike Fishwick wrote:There is no magic in doing a 360 degree spin - all you need is a surplus of torque over grip, a heavy right foot, and no sympathy for your car. In my distant youth a lot of us managed it without anyone hailing us as good drivers - quite the reverse! How times have changed.
All one needed was a Triumph TR2 or Ausin-Healey Sprite (better still, an Austin-Healey 3000!) which when coupled with an overdose of testosterone and a lack of discretion would perform such antics without even being asked!
I always thought that the object of fast driving was to go round corners while avoiding spinning, rather than make a cult out of what is really failure.
Perhaps that's why I see little merit in these cheap tricks, as while you are spinning pointlessly the next car will be up the road and away. I suppose in such hopelessly restricted places such as Singapore (home of 'Drifting') and the USA, spinning is about all that immature youths can do, but even in the UK there must still be better things to do with your car.
It's just a bit of fun for Christ's sake
Re: It's Easy
Japan is the home of drifting, grumpy old manI suppose in such hopelessly restricted places such as Singapore (home of 'Drifting') and the USA, spinning is about all that immature youths can do, but even in the UK there must still be better things to do with your car.
Restrictions
I feel that the many restrictions on driving in the UK (from cameras and speed bumps to the attitude of other drivers) are responsible for people's appreciation of drifting and burnout etc etc.
When Club GTI run sprints at Curborough entrants have all afternoon to play, and get about a dozen double laps (warming-up and timed) for about £35 each when I last attended, which is pretty cheap. With such a short and twisty track it's difficulat to do any damage, and the experience is akin to driving on real roads, whereas a track day at a GP circuit is quite different, in terms of width and corner radius. You also have the problme of being involved with another car, as many people cannot tell the difference between a track day and a race.
What we (sorry - you poor people!) need are a series of small local sprint circuits, modelled on courses such as Curborough, where people can enjoy their cars and develop useful skills in safety, with only their own car on the track.
I cannot see it ever happening - years ago, when someone wanted to use a defunct clay pit on Dartmoor as a motorcycle trail park, the usual types protested until it was thrown out. What the UK needs are some motoring enthusiasts in Parliament!
When Club GTI run sprints at Curborough entrants have all afternoon to play, and get about a dozen double laps (warming-up and timed) for about £35 each when I last attended, which is pretty cheap. With such a short and twisty track it's difficulat to do any damage, and the experience is akin to driving on real roads, whereas a track day at a GP circuit is quite different, in terms of width and corner radius. You also have the problme of being involved with another car, as many people cannot tell the difference between a track day and a race.
What we (sorry - you poor people!) need are a series of small local sprint circuits, modelled on courses such as Curborough, where people can enjoy their cars and develop useful skills in safety, with only their own car on the track.
I cannot see it ever happening - years ago, when someone wanted to use a defunct clay pit on Dartmoor as a motorcycle trail park, the usual types protested until it was thrown out. What the UK needs are some motoring enthusiasts in Parliament!
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I have seen this before too, in fact its saved to my hard driveAlfie wrote:SpunkyM wrote:....truely mesmorising lap of the 'ring in an M3 GTR. Phenominal !!!
Blimey!
Do you reckon he's been round once or twice before?
I would've sworn that video was speeded up, but just watch the way he annihilates all the other cars! Excellent!
A.
Ok this lap of the ring was a qualifying lap for the nurbergring 24 hours in either 2004 or 2005, the driver in question is Hans Stuck, ex formula 1, and winner of the ring 24 hours on several occasions. The car was one of 2 run by schnitzer, who run dirk muller and jorg muller in the WTCC. The team manager has told us that the speed on the fastest parts of the ring was in excess of 185 MPH. He would also have gone quicker had the Porsche not blocked him into Adenau and the yellow flags later in the lap. The GTR's were first and second in the race both times they competed, shame they are not racing any more. I saw them at the Spa 24 hour in 2004. Awesome watching them overtake the 550 marrenelos up through Eau rouge, the 550's would get them back on the Kemmel straight shortly after though.
Still a good watch though always brings a smile to my face when I see it.