engine remapping and simota induction kit

Badman gee · Post by **Badman gee** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 13:37

anyone have both of the above?

does it make a difference?

many thanks

mark

GROMMIT · Post by **GROMMIT** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 13:43

I've looked into it on my 3 litre but it can reduce torque figures by quite a bit so i've never bothered.

Z3cade · Post by **Z3cade** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 14:42

what has happened the 'i want to keep it standard'

Badman gee · Post by **Badman gee** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 14:58

Z3cade wrote:what has happened the 'i want to keep it standard'

yes and i will, just interested.

Z3cade · Post by **Z3cade** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 15:12

i dont think on an M you would benifit much from a remap nor a filter as the ms have a cold air scoop straight into the airbox as standard.. perhaps a KnN pannel filter...

of you were to remap i dont think youd feel much differents for what it costs....

RemarkLima · Post by **RemarkLima** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 15:27

E-maps figures seem to be pretty good and a good heap of torque as well...

http://e-maps.co.uk/products/BMW/Z3+Roadster/

I've had a diesel done by Simon in the past, and really can't fault the serivce! Totally A1! Very tempted to get the ///M remapped as wel, as it apprantly just smooths out the whole map as well, not just peak figures.

Of course, YMMV

Boysie · Post by **Boysie** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 16:57

Hi

I contacted Austintec in crawley about a remap
They did my brother VW diesel it goes like a rocket now
they said it would not make a lot of differnece on power on the ///M
but would definitely run smoother thats all
For £500+? its smooth enough already

The Simota sounds Nice

Ray

markrnorton · Post by **markrnorton** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 17:07

Well i dont know about the M, but when i had mine remapped with the supercharger on it (with the simota) the guys there were not that complimentary about simota's. they said more show than go. they recommended the more simple ITG megaflow filter.
with this fitted instead of the simota, and a tweek we got 12hp more on the rollers and 5 torques (back to back figures)

definately better with the ITG.It doesnt look as good, but flowed significantley better

billz · Post by **billz** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 18:02

GROMMIT wrote:I've looked into it on my 3 litre but it can reduce torque figures by quite a bit so i've never bothered.

I had my 3.0 done last year at evolve and Torgue evened out around 3700rpm and peaked to 235 at 3750rpm with an average increase of 10ftlb hp increased an average of around 8bhp. So im not sure where you got that info from. Responsiveness is also more noticible.
bill

shantybeater · Post by **shantybeater** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 18:26

I've heard and seen figures suggesting a reasonable gain on S50's. At some point I plan on doing the S54. Like billz i would only suggest Evolve for mapping, they know the in's and outs of our cars and to make it worthwhile you need a proper live map. I would have thought exhaust/filter/map and you will see a 20-30hp gain

offyourmarks · Post by **offyourmarks** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 19:46

For me the gain will be negligible, hardly noticeable anywhere other than on paper. It's a waste of time paying to remap a N/A engine without some serious mech work prior.

Maybe a little more responsiveness and more noise buts thats it.

JohnSmith · Post by **JohnSmith** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 21:52

I know Evolve in Luton have done a lot of work around remapping and IIRC they helped develop the Simota kit.

According to them the 321 BHP quoted that the S.50 is meant to produce is a little ambitious.

It may be worth speaking to people who have had work done at Evolve to see if there is any real gain.

Jonttt · Post by **Jonttt** » Tue 28 Jun, 2011 23:55

Badman gee wrote:anyone have both of the above?

does it make a difference?

many thanks

mark

Yes, and Yes

but as stated above on a NA engine the gains are in gear and not really overall power (compared to what can be achieved with a remap on a turbo engine).

So as long as your expectations are realistic its worth it, if your simply wanting more power then its not worth it.

Would I do it again, yes but my S54 has already been mapped and induction optiosn are limited / mega expensive on the S54 engine (but are on my "to do" list)

Here is my old thread ......

http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20284

siwilson · Post by **siwilson** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 07:15

JohnSmith wrote:I know Evolve in Luton have done a lot of work around remapping and IIRC they helped develop the Simota kit.

According to them the 321 BHP quoted that the S.50 is meant to produce is a little ambitious.

It may be worth speaking to people who have had work done at Evolve to see if there is any real gain.

Evolve have a nice mod for the S50 that includes a carbon airbox and a MAF delete, but that's big money.

321 BHP on the S50 is not really ambitious. I saw Murf's S50 make that on Evolve's rollers and his was bone stock. Other S50 that ran on the day were also not far away.

If you are interested in what can be done with and S50 search for threads by JasonZ3M. Jason had the works done to his S50 (flywheel, Schrick cams, carbon airbox, MAF delete) and only ended up about 30 over stock. If you really want more power then forced induction is the way to go.

Justin Time · Post by **Justin Time** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 11:50

siwilson wrote:If you are interested in what can be done with and S50 search for threads by JasonZ3M. Jason had the works done to his S50 (flywheel, Schrick cams, carbon airbox, MAF delete) and only ended up about 30 over stock.

But christ it didn't 'alf shift! Other ///M owners who had a ride commented on the serious difference to stock ///M power.

PERRIN Z3M · Post by **PERRIN Z3M** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 13:39

Justin Time wrote:
siwilson wrote:If you are interested in what can be done with and S50 search for threads by JasonZ3M. Jason had the works done to his S50 (flywheel, Schrick cams, carbon airbox, MAF delete) and only ended up about 30 over stock.
But christ it didn't 'alf shift! Other ///M owners who had a ride commented on the serious difference to stock ///M power.

Thats probably because his was 350bhp but most standard ones tested seem to only produce around 300bhp and I bet once tuned to that level it would be a lot quicker off the line.

Steve

shantybeater · Post by **shantybeater** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 16:28

^^ echo above comments, with a carbon airbox, cams etc.. like Jason you will probably see more like a 40-50hp boost across a alot of the rev range (unlike a turbo peak boosting) This will give a good increase in performance albeit seriously expensive.

Don't get me wrong any power gains on n/a engines are far more expensive per hp than a turbo car (you cant just crank up the boost) but imo still worthwhile

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 16:36

My S54 has been done at Evolve, figures show 347bhp

shantybeater · Post by **shantybeater** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 16:59

Gazza is that just a map or are there any other supporting mods? I assume the red line was raised to m3 level? I think its alot easier to release HP from the s54 since its restricted in MZ form

Badman gee · Post by **Badman gee** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 17:06

thanks for all the comments

mark

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 19:23

shantybeater wrote:Gazza is that just a map or are there any other supporting mods? I assume the red line was raised to m3 level? I think its alot easier to release HP from the s54 since its restricted in MZ form

No other mods, redline has not been raised at my request but the speed limiter has been deleted.

Badman gee · Post by **Badman gee** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 19:32

how fast will the m go without the limiter?

i know the speedo is limited to 160

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Wed 29 Jun, 2011 19:47

Badman gee wrote:how fast will the m go without the limiter?

i know the speedo is limited to 160

Don't know, I stick to speed limits

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